Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

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I always tell people I was rasied as a Cradle Feminist, with Leftist Propaganda in my milk bottle. This legacy has created a left-leaning orientation coupled with a puzzling distaste for orthodoxies of any kind - left, right, or otherwise.

Some memories: playing naked in the fountain in Sproul Plaza, the Carousel in Tilden Park, carob ice cream, hanging out on Durant in the early 80s, Rocky Horror at the UC, punk shows at Ruthie's, metal shows at Keystone, the godawful scary Berkeley public schools, 'free boxes', Cedar-Rose park being built, Ohlone Park when it was just empty lots, field trips to Lawrence Hall of Science, and many more....
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  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Mon, June 28, 2004 - 8:19 PM
    Hi Dolce,

    Yes, I remember sliding down the slide at Cordonices and playing in Rose creek, Live Oak Park Annual Waffle picnics, swimming at Lake Anza, The Little Train, climbing Indian Rock, Washington and Franklin schools, King Jr. High, hail in the North Berkeley BART station lot when it was just a lot, National Guard trucks waking me up at 4AM on their way to the University, the Shanty Town riots, playing chess with classmates whose dad would smoke pot, friends whose parents didn't wear clothes at home, "Now Serving 100% Beef Hamburgers" on the BHS cafeteria menu, "Rollercoaster" at the 6th grade dance, playing on the People's jungle-gym at Ohlone on the way to and from school everyday, sprawling at Sproul, swimming at Strawberry, high diving from the King pool, Grove Street!, spitballs at Fat Alberts, skating at the ice rink, Luis Alvarez lecture on Dinosaur extinction at UCB, also at UCB a lecture almost disproving astrological prediction, Psychic Faire, working The Friends of the Library annual booksale and coming home with boxes of cool books every year, slurpies from the Solano 7-11. Seeing Disney's Bambi at the main library when I was 6 and crying. UC Theatre. (Whew! Its almost my birthday and I'm nostalgic for the past.) Swensons, Ortmans, Eddy's. T-Square and tetherball. T-ball League. Afterschool pottery class. "Hey, you kids!" Bicycle licensing. Giovanni's, La Val's, Bongo Burger, Blue Nile, Cafe Mediterranean, Roma, and Topdog! Co-op, Hinks, Globe Stamps, Games of Berkeley, Toby's Toys, Woolworths, REI, and Silverball...wow, the list goes on and on. "Farms in Berkeley?" and The Little Farm. Riding in my uncle's Model-T in the bicentennial July 4th parade. Shakey's and Woody Woodpecker movies. The Book Mobile. Better stop now before I become overwhelmed!

    See you at the "How Berkeley Can You Be" parade.

    Timbo
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      Sun, September 12, 2004 - 10:21 PM
      The Dot Man.
      La Vals - Northside @ 3am.
      People's jungle-gym at Ohlone - Ah, "People's Park Annex" That's where I used to dump my papers instead of doing my paper route.
      • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

        Thu, September 16, 2004 - 11:52 AM
        Yezzz, I used to play on The People's Jungle-gym every day to and from Berkeley High. Also when it was brand new when I would sometimes walk to or from Washington School lo those many years ago.

        You didn't work out of the Chronicle "shack" on Grove Street did you? I did--keerist! Nostalgia is a hard thing to shake when you get older. Maybe an ex-Barringtonite has a solution...
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          Thu, September 16, 2004 - 12:54 PM
          Barrington - I saw my first punk rock show there; the Zeros and The Dead Kennedys. (1978?)
          • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

            Mon, February 14, 2005 - 12:46 PM
            I saw many shows there, but one that really stands out was seeing Bad Brains, and getting really stoned with H.R. (lead singer).

            Those were the daze (how do I remember?).

            J.S.
            • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

              Wed, September 27, 2006 - 3:03 PM
              Ok, I had to join this tribe/thread because as I was reading J.B.'s entry Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley,
              "I saw many shows there, but one that really stands out was seeing Bad Brains, and getting really stoned with H.R. (lead singer)."

              "Secret 77" by Bad Brains is playing on my computer, which is set on "random" play. How funny is that!?

              While I'm here, does anyone remember the homeless lady on Telegraph that used to roll with about a dozen stray dogs and a shopping cart?
          • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

            Sun, March 13, 2005 - 3:26 AM
            I never went into Barrington Hall, and I greatly regret missing this essential cultural link in the 80's. But my brother was a clarinetist and was blowing jams there on a regular basis. I dunno...it just sounded a little dangerous there, to me. I also heard how people had trashed it and had this "prankster" mentality, which I definately approved of. Still, it sounded a little raw. What are your best and worst memories of the place? Thanks!
            • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

              Wed, March 16, 2005 - 7:16 PM
              I only went there to a couple of parties or boardgaming nights as some acquaintences lived there. I never went there on my own as it was a friend of mine who knew the people there. It was a crazy place. And definitely a lost piece of the Berkeley puzzle in my opinion.
          • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

            Mon, April 2, 2007 - 9:23 AM
            yeah - saw that too. Barrington, where one could hear seven versions of Sugar Magnolia simultaneously from the many rooms - whose occupants would all claim that they were playing THE ONLY version that counted, while punks would throw up outside and Tony's famous dog droog would stop by, looking for treats, good bud, sex or anyone he knew, before making his long stroll back to the hills.

            Too many memories of Berkeley to recount - this forum needs to be more specialized! Any one remember The Rock on Santa Barbara, with the fine bay views and secret and sacred stone benches where there was always a roach to be found? Saw many an extraterrestrial from there! Or telling some bored cop that I wasn't smoking weed but that I rolled my own cigarettes, omitting details about various tobacco-enhancers. Or the beautiful Maybeck and Lloyd-Wright architecture found all over, and the Radcliffs and Julia Morgans. And Strawberry canyon, the Kensington Market (where Icould but beer at 14), or Moe's books or the wonderful Public Library, or cutting afternoon classes and seeing early New Wave free at Sproul Plaza, or Kung Pau at King Tsin's, or the B-square or The Dew Drop Inn, or San Pablo at three in the morning, or Japanese Cal students who were so astonished by their environment that they thought they needed new glasses, or picking Chantrelles or Psilocybans (both useful), or being excused from school due to tear-gas, or most importantly of all: finally realizing that the founding mothers of Berkeley were aging, and that the place was not nearly as liberal as its image. In fact, rapidly becoming yuppified and very conservative! Yes, I remember Berkeley and always will. Like we used to say: "we'd be there if weed be there!" LOL
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Tue, February 8, 2005 - 9:05 AM
      Timbo you are bringing up some great memories.
      How about the tunnel at night at cordonices park, conga drummers at lower Sproul plaza when I was supposed to be at class (HS) , peoples park riots,
      bubble lady, sparky, fire slides in the Claremont, sneaking in the claremont pool, smokehouse burgers. The Berkeley City Club pool.

      Those were the daze.
      V
      • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

        Fri, February 11, 2005 - 1:40 AM
        Thanks. Everytime I visit this tribe, I wrack my brains for stuff. Right now, I'm thinking of playing baseball after school at Washington, on weekends at Jefferson. Climbing the tallest tree in the neighborhood...sadly cut down years ago when the house on that property was raised a story.
      • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

        Mon, February 14, 2005 - 1:02 PM
        Smoke House, Mmmmmmm.

        I was about 12 or 13 when the People's park riots happened, I was actually walking down the street towards the park when I saw a huge crowd at the edge of the park being held back by U.C. police and "blue meanies" (Alameda Co. sheriffs).

        Curious, I walked right into one the biggest, most infamous battles in Berkeley history. Just as I reached the park, police helicopters reeled around Shakespears bookstore, and began shooting teargas into the crowd.

        The massive crowd turned and started running right down the street I was coming from, and I was knocked to the ground instantly. I believe I was lifted up by someone, and pushed behind "Joji's" jewelery shop (still there), probably save me from being trampled.

        Another day in the life in Berkeley, Cailfornia.

        J.S.
  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Wed, November 17, 2004 - 10:08 AM
    The Waving man on MLK - we called him Mr. Waverly - he would shout "Have a GOOD day!" as we drove to school every morning.

    The fruit stand on MLK and Dwight Way.

    Ice cream parlors - Mccellans and??? on Solano... and >???? on Shattuck (started with an E?)

    There was a burrito place on Oxford and Center - where the starfucks is now - that was my first burrito.

    Rocky Horror was Saturday nite - but Road Warrior was Friday nite.

    Keg-mont park.

    The tennis courts at live oak - excellent place to bake.
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      Thu, November 18, 2004 - 11:21 PM
      Ortman's (sp?) Ice Cream parlor. Edy's on Shattuck.

      Oh yeah, my parents and they're friends getting the bug to see Rocky Horror at the University on Saturday night!

      Globe Stamp store, Games of Berkeley on Telegraph...

      Husteds where it originally was on Center where I got my first pair of patent leather shoes. Yes, my first memory of Berkeley is getting shoes there and how bustling a place it all was, even before BART was downtown. I lived outside St. Helena before I was five but my mom would drive us to Berkeley to go shopping and to stay in touch with her friends who lived in the East Bay. Berkeley was the Big City to a three year old from the countryside...
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Fri, November 19, 2004 - 8:03 AM
      It was McCallum's on Solano and Eddie's on Shattuck.

      Remember breaking into the Greek Theatre to "play" when there weren't shows there...Polka Dot Man...evenings at Au Cocolat...UC Theatre...the Rialto on Gilman, where I saw Stop Making Sense.

      Indian Rock!!!!
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        Fri, November 19, 2004 - 9:17 PM
        Yo! Indian Rock!

        Was it McCallum's? I thought Ortman's was right down the street...I used to go to McCallum's for those crazy Nightmares...in fact, I once had a quart mint malt there...I think it was for my 13th birthday.

        My mom said it was spelled Edy's when I asked but she's probably confusing that with the Dreyer's ice cream rebranded with "Edy's". I thought it might have been spelled Edie's. It was pronounce 'eedies' in my day.

        Turns our that Pleasanton still has a Swenson's. Sigh. Berkeley has lost its great Ice Cream parlours...replaced by yucky yogurt places I suppose. Sigh.

        #6/7, #51/4 and all the other bus lines...that took you by all those mysterious neighborhoods.

        Laloma park.
        • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

          Sun, November 21, 2004 - 8:52 AM
          yes, Ortman's was on the corner, you're right. All pink and white. The nightmare at McCallum's now how could you forget that. The 1950's phontos on the walls with kids diving into the monstonsity! I actually rented a flat from Rob McCallum the former owner in the 90's great guy, always gave me the fudge sauce for the holidays. Too bad all the good ice cream paulors are gone.
      • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

        Mon, April 4, 2005 - 9:48 AM
        AAHHH!
        Forgot about Au Cocolat- those were the daze whe all it took to get buzzed was strong coffee.
        Sigh!
        • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

          Mon, April 4, 2005 - 10:00 AM
          Spent hours there, hanging with Coco, Laughing Boy, Bill, Dangerangel and Alexis.

          Maybe that's why I don't drink coffeee very much anymore...I OD'd! hahaha
          • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

            Wed, May 11, 2005 - 6:31 PM
            Luara:

            The place that sold the sticky fingers jeans, the painter pants in every color and the cream jeans was called FRESH PANTS. It was across from the Ace Hardware on University Ave. Leave it to Janice to remember!

            It was awesome you could go right in - pick any color painter pants imaginable and they would hem your pants for you on the spot. Yes, somehow I wrangled the money from my mom for more than a few pairs.

            Of course going even further back they replaced the dittos I had in 6th grade. Now that was fashion!
            • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

              Wed, May 11, 2005 - 6:53 PM
              i just couldn't pull that out of my brain...good job! thanks to Janice.

              My neighbor was totally into that look but I was hanging out with her older brother listening to the Sex Pistols and Wild Cherry...OOOO...what a combo!
          • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

            Wed, April 25, 2007 - 2:54 PM
            DA and i have already discussed this, but me and my crew used to hang out at The Old Mole and curse the bourgeois devils at Au Coquelet, downing coffee after coffee and reading zippy the pinhead and the book of the subgenius out loud to each other. nowadays i'd probably just as soon as hang out someplace like au coquelet though - particularly if they were to have a decent croissant, another item that we sneered at back then.
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Mon, February 14, 2005 - 1:08 PM
      Holy Sh*t,

      Edy's! (on Shattuck), I used to work there right out of high school.

      Also, there were two ice cream shops on Solano, one were Starf*cks is now, an one right up the street. And of course I can't remember the names of either of them, damn!

      McCallum's was on Shattuck across from Missing Link.
      • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

        Mon, February 14, 2005 - 1:33 PM
        Anybody remember Bott's Ice cream when Mr. Bott served it up himself and concocted the C.C.A.C?
        • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

          Sun, March 13, 2005 - 3:39 AM
          I remember Botts! That was a couple blocks from where I grew up. And right next door, the Chinese restaurant with the '30's art deco chinese interior. Wet dreams of eating steaming bowls of wor won ton soup on a stormy day, looking out across the street and seeing the art deco sign of the Elmwood Theatre.

          Back then, Berkeley was safe. We never locked our doors or cars. Kids could go around unsupervised on Halloween and get tons of candy. I used to ride my Schwinn Stingray with my top off and no hands, up and down my street.

          Our friends mothers and fathers were wild, historic characters on the cutting edge of art and culture: my best friend was Katy Moscowitz (Moe's books), next door neighbors, the Sussmans, won the Pulitzer for editing the Tribune, ditto the Temkos...miss Elizabeth, Alan got the Pulitzer for Architechtural crit sometime in the 80's, round the corner, one of the most famous of the underground cartoonists, not Crumb, but similar style. The friends whose parents boasted of being homeless and had posters on the wall of all these sex positions, in blacklight!~ Well, it goes on and on - exposure to grand intellects, mixed up in my memory with shocking doses of bohemian influenced decadence, just part of growing up in Berkeley in the 60's. I loved it!
          • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

            Sun, March 13, 2005 - 8:04 PM
            Uhh, I know Katy actually i was friends w/ her half sister and would you have grown up near Woolsey Street?The Sussmans on Woolsey? The Chinese restaurant oh yeah.My dad was photo journalist for Examiner and do I have some stories.
          • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

            Thu, March 17, 2005 - 8:51 AM
            Wow, you really stir up even more memories!

            Speaking of bohemien influence growing up, my father (Jimi Suzuki) was part of the East Bay art scene in the early sixties, Peter Volkus, Joan Brown, Manuel Neri, Steve Potts, etc.

            I grew up hanging out at art shows and crazy parties in warehouses way before there were "warehouse parties" that most of use are familiar with. My mother's second husband was the guitar / organ player for Country Joe & the Fish, so needless to say the next few years growing up (way too fast) in Berkeley were interesting.
            • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

              Fri, March 18, 2005 - 8:52 AM
              Damn this tribe is blowing through the windmills of my mind. Steve Potts. Yes, his son was a friend of mine when I was at Washington. I remember going out to visit their place in Marin where there were dragster parts and stuff. That was back in 1971?

              Florence MacDonald, Joe's mom, is a friend of my mom.
        • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

          Tue, May 31, 2005 - 1:16 PM
          I lived 3 blocks up the street from Botts on ashby. That was when there were 3 communal houses on my block alone, mine was The Family Frog, commune of 30 years. As kids we ran ferral from house to house.
        • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

          Sat, September 10, 2005 - 10:32 AM
          i rememeber Botts. joined this tribe to mention the waving man but someone beat me to it. i am very far away, this is all making me homesick for a place that doesn't even really exist anymore...
  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Sun, November 28, 2004 - 10:59 AM
    and when people who are not from Berkeley mistake me for a hippie I have to illustrate the difference between a hippie and someone growing up normally in Berkeley....favorite memories....when it was quiet enough in the mornings to hear the, from the Berkeley hills, buoys ringing in the bay echoing across the water.......or tripping late at night in tilden with 20 kids, getting caught by the rangers and being made to swear on fig leaves we would not be in the part after hours again.....maybe it was standing in line in Freddys market during riot night in the 90s with the windows boarded up and only locals inside...I was next to this cop...we looked at each other......it was understood who we are and where we are from....he he he
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Sun, November 28, 2004 - 5:36 PM
      yes, my parents were Mods in the 60's, my mom studied art at the SF Art Institute and dad taught science at UC. Berkeley Kids are a breed apart...not hippies...won't fit into any mold as I think we were taught to march to our own beat.
      • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

        Mon, December 13, 2004 - 12:31 PM
        Yes Berkeley kids are different alright. I grew up in this quirky way. It's who I am and I have no desire to try to fit the liberal middle class mold. I can't any way it's impossible, I always let something slip and end up with odd looks cast my way. Home was always filled with the weirdest brightest most wonderful people. Music, dogs, chaos, activism. I was here during the riots. I remember my friends dad watching us but needing to try to go break up a potential riot, with a megaphone he urged the crowd to go home before violence broke out. I remember smelling tear gas in the living room. A boyfriend of a woman (Sunshine) was crying on her shoulder with a draft notice in hand talking about jumping off the bridge. I remember coming down stairs to see the former head of the CIA cooking antelope stew in the kitchen. He informed me soberly that he was substituting beef as antelope was unavailable. I remember every type of blotter art imaginable and wishing I was old enough to head up to the hills to trip with the adults. I remember my moms friend, jailed in San Quentin for less than an ounce of pot, and the water colors with acid in them we painted for her to give him and how she was almost caught passing him drugs in a kiss during a visit. I remember gathering in the local parks for solstice rituals. Solstice, Beltane, equinox all those rituals marking the passing of seasons. I remember fast Eddy, Greasy Gene, dirty John and Poncho Pillow, the biker who's dog ate my pet rat. (they told me he ran away). I was taken to Winterland to see the dead when I was 6. I think I learned the proper rolling of a joint in pre school, seen kilos of pot, peyote etc divided up on the dining room table. And how my mom dealt pot so all the the hip kids in high school came over and hung out. I remember intense and beautiful epiphanies on acid and the ritual where Shandria held out a hefty bag of mushrooms and I was gone...for a while. I remember coming down from that giggling with my friend about boy scouts. I remember boyfriends who thought free love was cool and I had to deal with watching them hold other women. I remember the wind at the rim of redrocks and 50 deadheads dancing hand and hand wind whipping wildly through their hair and clothing while terrapin drifted through the night sky. I remember traveling cross country in a hurse, and how people rolled up their windows as they passed us. I think we were pulled over about 7 times that trip, once even asked if we had weapons. Got run out of Lovelock Nevada by the sheriff. I remember my mothers activism, Viet Nam, The cold war, the death penalty, her stories about greenwitch village. My friends that ended up as drug addicts. I'm thinking about all this because I get "a hippy? How quaint" from people and I droop. We were the cultural experiments of that time. Raised to become people that might change the world, but terribly unequipped to function normally in it. But I'm glad to have lived it, it is my culteral orientation.
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Fri, May 18, 2007 - 10:25 PM
      I lived on Neilson street right up from Toots Sweets and Brothers Bagels and this really cool little deli that had the BEST garlic cheese bread. Evo had a liquor store on the corner. He used to give me a piece of candy everyday and walk me across Gilman street.I remember hearing the fog horns and the sound of the BART train going by right behind my house on Evelyn?? Man the good old days. Whoever said it makes him homesick for a place that is not there anymore sure hit it on the head.
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    Sat, February 19, 2005 - 4:09 AM
    ASUC bowling alley and pool tables. The pool hall on University just above Sacramento.
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      Tue, February 22, 2005 - 9:25 PM
      Ah yes, I remeber the bowling alley at the ASUC! Remember when Arinell's first opened on Shattuck?
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        Sun, February 27, 2005 - 11:33 PM
        Uh, actually, I don't remember when it opened. It must have been before the late 70s though...right?
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          Mon, February 28, 2005 - 7:56 AM
          Hmm, hard to remember exactly when but I think it was about 76-78?
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            Mon, February 28, 2005 - 1:17 PM
            Yeah, I can't recall whether it was there before the bicentennial parade...
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              Mon, February 28, 2005 - 1:59 PM
              I'm thinking that it wasn't. I just remember waiting for the bus downtown, eating Pork Bows from the Chinese cart and then suddenly there was Arinell's and everyone was eating pizza.
              • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

                Wed, March 2, 2005 - 1:04 PM
                Does anyone out there remember when there was an Orange Julius on Bancroft and Telegraph?

                There also used to be a 76 (gas) station where Bison brewery was (what's there now?).

                Mr. Mopps, a Berkeley institution, and still there!

                J.S.
                • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

                  Wed, March 2, 2005 - 2:16 PM
                  Don't remember the Orange Julius - although there was one in El Cerrito.

                  I love Mr. Mopps! When I was a kid it was great and it still is. One time I had to do a picnic themed dinner for UB40 and we bought plastic ants from Mr. Mopps to complete the feel.
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                    Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

                    Wed, March 2, 2005 - 9:41 PM
                    I remember the Orange Julius in El Cerrito "mall" well.

                    Anyone remember the lady with a moustache who worked at Ortman's?? I remember telling my parents, "mommy, that lady has a moustache!" They were devastated...

                    Anyone else play at LaLoma park? Any kids from near Fairlawn/Queens/Shasta?

                    I *think* I even remember our Co-op number... and Unicef upstairs... and sneaking into my first rated R movie <<Purple Rain>> at the UA!!
                    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

                      Wed, March 16, 2005 - 7:22 PM
                      Hi Eileen,

                      My mom used to take my brothers and I up to Laloma every now and then. I remember swinging on the swings there and thinking that if I let go and jumped I'd land in the Bay! I really need to drop by Laloma and tool around--maybe I'll take my niece there next time I have to babysit her (and she's visiting Berkeley). Naw, I'll probably just walk her over to Totland...still at McGee and Virginia.
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                      Sat, November 18, 2006 - 8:08 AM
                      I remember when LaLoma Park was built. Played baseball, swung, ran up along the chain fence through the ivy. We'd walk there on field trips from Grizzly Peak school - called Little Hillside when I started there; had a ballot to rename it and my parents let my sisters and me choose. One proposed name was something like "Golden Sunshine." Before LaLoma, we'd play at Terrace View Park on Queens near Fairlawn.

                      I remember our Co-op number, even our phone number and my best friends' phone number; the area code was still 415 and some older people and businesses still used HAwthorne 4-xxxx, and and LAndscape 8-xxxx.

                      Ortman's - walked all the way there from Marin and Cragmont with 3 neighbor kids and their baby sitter before I was 3; got bubble gum ice cream.
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                  Sun, November 12, 2006 - 11:37 PM
                  I lived on Vine Street BEFORE Mr. Mopps existed. The place was a second-hand store then. There was another store next to it on the corner (I think Mr. Mopps takes up the whole ground floor of the building now) and across Rose Street was a candy store where you could buy lips (red or licorice), fingernails, Lik-m-ade and other penny goodies.

                  My dad and I used to walk our dog around the block at night - down Vine to Grove, turn right on Grove, turn right on Rose, turn right on Bonita, and back home. It took hours - so long that we referred to it as an expedition and took provisions (one cookie each) before setting out.

                  The window of the second-hand store was lit up at night. One fall night I saw a horse statue there. It was about four feet tall (more like 14 inches) and I loved it. But I knew that it must cost way too much money for us to afford because it was so big and so beautiful. I never dreamed of asking for it, just admired it every night. Then it was gone.

                  It was one of the thrills of my life when I unwrapped that horse under the Christmas tree that year. It probably cost less than a dollar.

                  Our Co-op number was 3xxx. In other words, less than 4,000. I remember spending time in the Kiddie Korral too.

                  The pool. The ice rink.

                  I lived on Contra Costa Ave. from 1950 to 1955, when my father was sent to Guam for a year. We walked down Indian Rock path to Solano. It was McCallum's on Solano, by the way - it was there in the 1950s. I remember a supermarket opening on Solano. There were skylights sweeping the night sky and we were right under them! I got this confused with being at the end of the rainbow.

                  When we got back from Guam we lived in a second-floor apartment on Spruce St. until we bought the Vine St. house. My father remodeled it. In those days you didn't restore a Victorian house, you remodeled (and ruined) it.

                  In 1960 we moved to Sebastopol. I came back to Berkeley in 1970 after starting at UC Santa Cruz in the days when UCSC was actually more competitive than Berkeley. I picked UCSC from the first tier and UCB from the second tier. I really wanted to go to Berkeley but my amusingly clueless parents thought I'd be "safer" at UCSC. Grownups would be keeping an eye on the kids there. Bwahahaha.

                  I paid $125 for a studio apartment on LeConte St. and that was ridiculously expensive. You could buy a whole house for $30,000 and the mortgage would have been about that much. I tried to convince my father to buy a house and we'd rent out rooms and make a profit. He refused because he didn't like the idea of being a landlord.

                  I remember Berkeley when there was ONE long-haired guy in town. He thought he was Jesus, or at least went around in flowing robes carrying a "Repent" kind of sign.

                  Our library was the one near the "modern" fire station, both when we lived on Contra Costa and when we lived on Vine. I went to the School of the Madeline and had friends from there, who mostly lived in north Berkeley, and neighborhood friends from the wrong side of the tracks (between Shattuck and Grove). My parents said the real estate agent told them not to buy south of Shattuck but they didn't care.

                  There was a huge old Victorian house at the southeast corner of Vine and Bonita. A widow owned it, and she gave a ring to one of my neighborhood friends. It was torn down and an apartment building replaced it.

                  Between Vine and Rose on Bonita, there was another big old house that had been turned into some kind of care facility. On the southwest corner of Rose and Bonita there was a tiny little overgrown house that was definitely occupied by a witch. We kids knew this because there was a shrunken head hanging in the glassed-in sunporch. You could see it if you went trick-or-treating there, but nobody I actually knew was brave enough. Sometimes walking back from school I would try to look through the windows of the porch and was almost sure I saw the head. I don't remember ever seeing the witch, or anyone at all at the house, which just confirmed her existence.

                  My grandmother had a big house on Delaware just south of Shattuck. She lived on the first floor and rented out rooms on the top two to students. It's still there also.

                  I went to dance and pottery and art classes at Live Oak Park. There was a concrete sculpture in the play yard out in front - a little mountain (about 3 feet tall) that had a road going up to the top, through tunnels. Years later I took my son to play on it - and on the turtle, and on the iron thing you sat on and turned so that it would spin around. There was a brass blob in the center that you focused your eyes on so you wouldn't get sick. All that stuff is gone now.

                  Birthday parties in Tilden Park. Edie's. Hink's. Hink's still had its old fixtures when I came back in 1970. Even the old pneumatic tube system for your sales slip and change. Even a lending library.

                  I remember the Mario Savio and the Free Speech movement.

                  It's been great to find this thread!
              • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

                Fri, May 18, 2007 - 10:28 PM
                OMG!! Those pork steamed bao!! Soft fluffy light as air filled with sweet pork and spices......I used to get them from the cart that was right outside of a Center street Bart exit. In front of a bookstore. Used to take AC transit, we called it Aunt Clara....sigh...
  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Sat, March 12, 2005 - 7:53 PM
    Anybody here remember Kip's burgers? bonus for the backroom.
    Buttercup Bakery on College with the waitress with the big hair and painted eyebrows?
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Sun, March 13, 2005 - 6:20 PM
      Kips and the horseradish--had to duck once when a friend who didn't know what horseradish was said that it can't be that hot and took a big bite of a burger that he'd just slathered a tablespoonful on it! Was that fun or what?!
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Mon, April 4, 2005 - 9:58 AM
      Loved the Buttercup. My friends parents owned it and we would go there before dance class at Shawl Anderson - it's amazing we could move after eating one of there brownies - God they made the best mint brownies! We always wanted trade lunches with Louise.
  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Sun, March 13, 2005 - 3:14 AM
    You are so on the money when you wrote "a lingering distaste for orthodoxies of any kind"! And I really thought that was a particular quirk of my own psyche. I am blown away, and filled with pride.
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      Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Wed, April 6, 2005 - 5:00 PM
      Thanks............tis true.

      And yes everyone, I do remember Orange Julius in El Cerrito!
      • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

        Wed, April 6, 2005 - 6:56 PM
        I remember when Orange Julius was right there on the corner of Bancroft and Telegraph.

        Yum...

        what was in those things?
        • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

          Fri, June 3, 2005 - 10:32 PM
          My earliest memory is being in the fountain thing at provo park. The ring I was in was over my head, but I had climbed out before standing on a little pipe coming out of the concrete. This time I couldn't get out and so I was running around and around, kind of freaked out. There were a lot of people around, but I was to shy to ask for help. Finally my older brother came back and hauled me out, he had the same irritated look even then. I must have been three or four. Then years later Bede and Bill and I got busted by The BHS principal, Mr. Parker, with a bag of pot right on that same fountain. He popped up out of nowhere. Now I know he smoked it, the fucking fuck.
          • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

            Sun, June 5, 2005 - 11:52 AM
            CUTIPIE!
            • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

              Sun, June 5, 2005 - 11:52 AM
              Anyone remember Mills Temple?
              • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

                Sun, June 5, 2005 - 11:56 AM
                And what about the orenge man, or the polka dot man, or Serge.
                I had a friend who wrote sat by Serge one day and wrote down every word, zerox'd it and passed it out in high school.
                Where are they now?
                • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

                  Sun, June 5, 2005 - 1:27 PM
                  Serge died about 10 + years ago. There was actually a memorial fro him. It is really kinda empty to pass by cody's now. the space he left behind is huge...

                  "The communisit powers are about to errupt, God is a communist, we are all..."


                  William, the polka-dot man, moved on. He stopped doing his thing and returned to a more ordinary life. He was a companion of mine while i was homless for a few years. His kindness and generosity were life-saving to me.

                  The orange man, I don't know. Though i did nurture one of his sprouts for a long time... we never spoke, and i don't know what became of him.

                  Funny how Reagan's changing of the word "chronic" to "critical" in the national medical program ended up brigning such a bouquet of faces to the streets of berkeley...

                  He was just cheaping out, saving money at the expense of the poor. I bet he never thought he was rebuilding the Berkeley he detested so much.
          • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

            Tue, June 7, 2005 - 12:59 PM
            I remember Mr. Parker wearing shorts...that dude was a freak! Anybody personally know the guy or his family?
            • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

              Wed, June 8, 2005 - 6:55 PM
              principal parker...te hee...I remember when he cam up to the steps and litterally freaked on all of us scraming about how degenerate we were and how he was going to fence off the steps....he left his job shortly thereafter

              and of course, ....Mr Letcher


              what took me so long to find this tribe thread?

              memories from the vault
              buying pot from mitzy
              playing chicken with the cops on a moped between the concrete street bariers
              (boy were the days before computers and big brother fun)

              listening to the talking heads play friday noon concerts in sproul plaza
              buying beer at the salamandra...at 13 years old

              the original shems restaurant

              having the cops make me swear on a fig leaf not to be in tilden park after dark
  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Sun, September 11, 2005 - 7:43 AM
    Does anyone remember the name of the bar/venue on lower sproul, just below the steps? I think I am a little younger the many in this group but the couple who lived in my folks basement took me to see the Freiky Executives there whn I was 10- my first concert. I remeber them talking the doorman into letting me in and then letting me sip at their beers...
    Also the Berkeley square and did anyone here go to Your PLace Too? under the freewat -Might be just in Oakland but whatever
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Tue, September 13, 2005 - 9:18 AM
      Bear's Lair I think is what you are talking about. It's the only place in lower sproul that serves beer. Still there.

      Spent lots of time at the Berkeley Square but never went to Your Place Too.
  • Kiddy Korral?

    Tue, May 23, 2006 - 1:50 PM
    Anyone remember the kiddy korrals at the old Co-ops? The one on Shattuck with the dutch door and the rubber dinosaurs and wooden toy cars? I vaguely remember the one on Telegraph, it was far down a hallway...would love to hear memories of these places. The old Co-op on Telegraph had its own laundrymat and old diner-style coffeeshop counter. I remember getting cupcakes with sprinkles from the bakery.
    • Re: Kiddy Korral?

      Sat, November 18, 2006 - 7:08 AM
      I played with toy cars and flashlight lightbulbs, wires and batteries at the one on Shattuck. Wanted to stay when mom came and said it was time to go.

















  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Sat, July 8, 2006 - 7:22 PM
    preschool thru 3rd grade on cherry st. in the mid 60s. walking home from school and stopping at a waterbed shop on telegraph, lying on the beds and watching a pschedelic slide show on the ceiling. bott's ice cream, banana and chocolate. the produce bus, a converted schoolbus that was lined with fruits & veggies, all the kids would run out of the house and chase the bus til it stopped. then our moms would come out to shop. some kid who wrote "monty strikes" and a sequential number - everywhere. in the parks. tilden park for sure. a 2-story house that we would drive by just to see a monkey that lived on the second floor. the campinile. emerson elementary, making real clay hand-built pottery with glazes. CORE (congress on racial equality) meetings at our house. one day when i was ten years old, my parents said we were moving to deep east texas. serious culture shock.
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      Telegraph avenue memories

      Sun, July 9, 2006 - 1:42 PM
      A few stores:
      Adam's apple ( telegraph and dwight)
      The "garden spot" ( now the intermezzo)
      The "5 and dime" (across the street from intermezzo)
      "sunset theatre_ (after the five and dime)
      Edy's Ice cream (shattuck and allston)
      "the houf brau" ( an old world meat and potatoes joint across from larry blake's)
      "Robbies" ( the place that was there before Larry blakes)
      The print shop next to cafe med with the mean looking lady with the pirate eye patch on.
      "Irv's house of leathers" (where they made hurraches, and cool hippie leather)
      "Pepe's Pizza" (Next door to where Irv's was. these were both next to the Med.)
      "the blue cue" (pool parlour where the second room of amoeba records is now)
      "the eclair bakery" (next to where cody's books is now)
      "dave the orange juice guy)
      "the pizza heaven" ( bancroft)
      "baskin and robbins" (bancroft)
      "Pacific cinema" (telegraph, above where fred's market is now)
      The roller skating rink on telegraph next to where Leo's pro audio is now.
      "birdie's toy store" "on shattuck in the square.)
      "reza's beer gardern" (now the outside of it is part of the raligh's out door deck)
      "bernini's ( on channing right above telegraph.)
      "cornucopia" Above bernini's. (One of the first, if not the first psychedelic hippie clothing store, run by my godmother)


      soooo many more. but than I am a little older (45) than most here, and I was on the ave EVERY DAY.

      P
      • Re: Telegraph avenue memories

        Mon, July 17, 2006 - 5:46 PM
        I practically lived at the Blue Cue.
        Sproul Plaza conga driumming and Frisbee

        Yarmo's where Tienda Ho is.
        Had my first chocolate fondue at Bernini's
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          Re: Telegraph avenue memories

          Mon, July 17, 2006 - 7:39 PM
          Now it's official, YOU are my homeboy! only the real soldiers of telegraph remember bernini's.
          Yarmo? I knew eva. almost uh, um. got "personal" with her daughter back in the day ( thank god I did not)

          Conga drumming started by "Tag" butch maynes, and tommy, as well as bill summers and h\johnny otis junior. and eddie with the captain's hat.
          I DID live at the blue cue. we must know one another. who are you? reveal yourself!
  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Mon, July 24, 2006 - 10:58 PM
    After hours at Receiving Studios, Wine Dinners with LSD laced punch and Marijuana brownies at Barrington Hall, Funk night at Ruthie's Inn, Berkeley Square. Doies anyone remember the group "Oquisha Paradox"? I loved them. Oh and "The Tomato Sauce Factory" after hours in Oakland.

    My first job was passing out fliers on Durant and Telegraph in 1980/1981.

    Remember the guy who walked around yelling "Rarrrrr (Rare)"?

    Hanging out on the pottery guy Russell's truck hood on Durant and Telegraph with my friend Chris, Hester, Sara D.

    Who remembers hanging out on "Bogart Hill" behind the Greek theater at concerts? I remember Jefferson Starship concert, Santana.

    LSD in People's Park.

    Appearing in a photo in The Daily Cal with Hester and Sara D. under the caption: "Derelicts and Delinquents Plague Durant Avenue".

    Seems like a lifetime ago.
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Tue, July 25, 2006 - 1:38 PM
      I miss Hester :(
      • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

        Tue, July 25, 2006 - 3:24 PM
        I saw Hester before she died... she was crossing the street at 16th and S. Van Ness.... I really wanted to jump out of the car and shake her "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING???"

        Speaking of Recieving studios, I just saw Tumbleweed (at Victor's funeral). He looked the same - he's working at a bio-tech company. Freaky.
      • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

        Wed, July 26, 2006 - 2:51 PM
        I miss Hester too. She was so bright and so brilliant. Makes me so sad.
        • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

          Thu, August 24, 2006 - 1:45 AM
          I miss hester way more too,

          I did see douggie recently he was doing OK
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            super old-school

            Thu, August 24, 2006 - 9:52 AM
            super old-schoolremember the japanese or chinese guy who worked at the united artists theater for like 30 years, and had a gread voice? what a character. I have used his character in a few acting roles. does anyone remember his name? I saw him at the safeway on college and he was totally the same! I love that guy. pure berkeley.
            • Re: super old-school

              Sun, August 27, 2006 - 4:19 PM
              I remember we used to call him "Jerry", but I don't think that's his real name. And yes, he's still at the Safeway on College.
            • Re: super old-school

              Tue, April 3, 2007 - 6:42 AM
              His name was Victor...used to chase my friend John Wiitala and I (and every other smartass kid I suppose) around when we snuck from one theater to another...Flesh Gordon, Barbarella, Kentucky Fried Movie, The Late Great Planet Earth....

              Having a tough time here finding landmarks unmentioned...
              How about Old English Fish and Chips/ Cock and Bull Ginger Beer? (Shattuck/University) Get baked, eat too much grease, puke.
              Barry the Pimp from the Northside beer place that sold to ANYONE (name?)
              Berkeley Bob.
              Strapping your bike to the front of Humphrey Gobart, up Strawberry Canyon to LHS, suicide ride back down the hill.
              • Re: super old-school

                Tue, April 3, 2007 - 10:23 AM
                goddamn i loved that greasy old welsh bastard, many an anglophilic night was spent there with me mates 'n' me in our suits and fishtail parkas trying to re-live "quadrophenia". remember his wife who worked sometimes who had major aquanet hair? i always came out of there with a sensation of grease particles having infested my lungs.

                another greasy delight - oscar's, which last i check is still in business and still gloriously greasy. is that mean gigantic woman still working behind the grill?

                we had a notorious place to buy beer when we were underaged - now where the hell was that? wracking my brains. it might have been on san pablo. many a bottle of henry weinhardt's private reserve.....i'm going to have to email my brother and see if he remembers.

                as for a more recent memory, is "Pub" still in business in Solano in Albany? the one with the pipe tobacco for sale and the old couches? they used to have this awesome amber ale on tap called John Courage which was the be-all and end-all....this is a later-80's memory.
                • Re: super old-school

                  Tue, April 3, 2007 - 4:29 PM
                  pulled up to a red light on University Ave. on my Honda 350. Had on a leather jacket. Mod on scooter pulled up next to me. I flipped him the bird and said "fucking Mod!" He returned the gesture, along with "bloody Rocker!" Pure unrehearsed theater...it made my night...hope it made his as well.
  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Sat, November 18, 2006 - 9:20 AM
    Vine Variety: a candy bar or a turtle was a nickel, and you could buy all sorts of candies and stuff for a penny. Fountain on Shattuck outside the main library. Grampa getting teargassed walking through UC campus. Codornices park, the old playhouse, the slide, and rope swing up the creek. McPhee's Junior Bootery on Center at Fulton giving you a balloon as you left. Buffet at the Claremont Hotel with punch instead of water dispensers and all you could eat desserts. Laurel and Hardy movies at Shakey's Pizza Palace. Nearly falling from the Indian Caves. The "tree in the middle of the road" on LeRoy. Swimming to the floating dock in Lake Anza. Monkeying with the soda machine at the seminary at the top of Marin so you could snake a bottle for everyone. Washers from abandoned tractor on Shasta as slugs - and gathering balls, washing em to sell to golfers - to buy candy from the machine at the Tilden Golf Course. Picking blackberries near dead Man's Path -Stevenson to Miller and white wood barrier at bottom scrawled with "Gril, You a Bish." The Green in Park Hills. Moon rocks at the Lawrence Hall of Science. Tilden Park Day Camp, when the counselors found/raided an herb patch. Riding on the outside of AC Transit buses, hanging on tor the billboards. Top Dog on Shattuck during lunch at BHS, someone grabbing your dog and running out with it. Nights clambering over the fence with cases of beer to swim in Strawberry Canyon pool, sneaking into the Greek Theater after shows, and into Memorial Stadium to party on the 50 yard line.
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Mon, January 19, 2009 - 9:18 PM
      Vine variety was my first lesson in economics (must have been 69 or so) as the big gum balls went from a penny to a nickel and then to a dime a few years latter. I asked my mom about it and she replied "price of sugar".
  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Sat, November 18, 2006 - 1:27 PM
    UA Theater full of pot smoke, watching "Rockers" and "The Harder They Come" and every other movie they showed there.

    Roller skating all over town even at night..

    Coffee coffee coffee at The Med and The Ren.

    Riding on the back of motorcycles up in the hills through Tilden and Grizzly Peak.

    Hot tub parties.

    All the house parties/ dancing all night.

    All the shows at Keystone, The Berkeley Square, Ruthies, La peña.

    Falafaels.

    Throwing boomarangs with Michael Girvin.


    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Sat, December 2, 2006 - 9:30 PM
      Duh, I think I meant the UC Theater, on University. God, I can't believe I don't remember...the place where Rocky Horror played every weekend, the UC right?
      • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

        Sat, December 2, 2006 - 10:09 PM
        Yep. UC. You could write double bills you wanted to see in their suggestions binder and sometimes they'd show'em!
        • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

          Sun, December 3, 2006 - 11:24 AM
          how about this one: skanking on the stage in front of the screen at "dance craze"? = rude boys/girls version of rocky horror...nobody threw any toast, though.
          • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

            Wed, December 13, 2006 - 6:13 PM
            hehe I remember that. Do any of you recall seeing a punk documentary called D.O.A.? Had some great footage of the Pistols/Generation X and the like and I remember a poem about making "banana bread".
            • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

              Sat, September 1, 2007 - 4:20 PM
              D.O.A. was fantastic! I think there was footage of Siouxsie and the Banshees as well. I'd forgotten about skanking at Dance Craze, but who could forget the Tommy and Quadrophenia double feature. Does anyone remember the film Jubilee with Toyah, Little Nell and a very young Adam Ant? And Performance? Once my friend and I went to see Kurosawa's The Seventh Samurai and were so stoned that we had to leave because we would break into fits of hysterical laughter every time the samurai bowed and prostrated himself. That didn't go down too well with the arty crowd.
  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Tue, March 13, 2007 - 7:03 PM
    In the car after the Berkeley riot… dad was driving us out of town, down Grove street I think. I remember what I thought was a tank blocking our way (Dad says it as really an armored truck) Men with guns, angry, pointing the guns into to the car at us.

    My nursery school, Montessori got tear gassed. By accident of course.

    At the Walker’s house when a riot broke out. I remember a man with a bloody head, running into the house, said “They have both ends of the street blocked of and they are going to kill us” He ran through the house and into the back yard to get away. Mrs. Walker said what really happened was the police blocked both ends of the street and started beating people’s heads in. She said she did not think it was one man in the house but several hundred running on either side of the house and through the yard to get away from the police.

    Mom was on the board for Women for peace, we would have envelope stuffing parties at our house. I got to lick the stamps if I was well behaved.

    Our phone was bugged (Because of Mom’s anti war activities)
    Gas shortages... getting gas on odd or even days. The waving man on Grove.

    Mom was president of Coop food stores for awhile… I remember making art in the daycare/baby sitting place there. Ohhh and those egg salad sandwiches at the sandwich bar there… Ohhh Man.

    Pete Seger, Arlo Guthrie and Joan Baez (All at once maybe?) at the Berkeley community theater… I was in kindergarten I think.
    Grateful dead concerts with Hester. Berkeley square Berkeley Stone, Greek theater (I could hear the music from there in my bedroom in the summer) … and that leads me to the SF Broadway scene… that is for another group though.

    Peace Marches, holding signs.
    Strawberry Canyon pool, Claremont Hotel pool, BART

    The park at the rose garden with the long cement slide and the haunted house at the top of the hill.

    The station hamburger place on Claremont an Ashby.

    The Jewish holocaust museum on Russell street.

    Tilden park train, merry go round, horses. Later working at Grizzly peak stables, so that I could get free rides. Lawrence hall of science.

    Sweat dreams candy store on College Ave when it was no larger then a closet.

    That ice cream shop on College where you could get a 25cent mini cone or was it a nickel?

    My first set of roller skates

    1979-ish Bailey and Tamara (from the band called_____)
    had the coolest apartment up the street from my studio apartment on Blake street. It had skylights and odd architecture… It was a reallllyyyyy cool apartment.

    The bubble lady, Julia. She used to hug me and make (yes insist/make) me buy her poetry books. I still have some.

    The Hate man. He yelled “I hate you!”. He liked it when you told him “I hate you too!”. The dot man and Surge…. see my page about Hester, no need to repeat about the here
    (www.rebawho.com/hester/memories.html)

    Hanging out in the grass covered hills over Berkeley.
    (Now there are just houses there… but once there was earth)

    Ohhhhhh and the Koala incident. The Berkeley City council (I think)… They imported those Koalas, to eat the eucalyptus, that was causing fire hazards… but no one thought to actually check and see if we had the right type of eucalyptus… we didn’t. All the starving koalas had to be caught.

    Names left out to protect the not so innocent… Remember the boy that went around writing/tagging “Zap!” On everything! All over Berkeley… His brother was really handsome too….

    That guy everyone new was the rapist called ‘Stinky’ but he never was arrested… whats up with that?!?

    Dancing in a circle in the dark on a new sod field up in the Berkeley hills… was a new university ball field? Throwing energy balls to each other.

    The muffin family. We had a news letter run by David De Groot… for a while anyway. The cozmonites.

    Ohhhhhh one night (1977??) going to a new part of town, cause a group of kids called the ‘ozone rangers’ were going to light off a buncha home made explosives, rockets….

    Barrington hall. They gave Jenocide and I food a couple times… when we were hungry… Vegetables if I remember.. we went back to the apartment and cooked them. There were these older guys that hung out down stairs at night… they were into baseball big time… seemed like that is all they talked about. Ohhh and Hugo in his skin tight leather pants looking like a young sexy Jim Morrison.

    Concerts in the park.

    “Skate board Kenny”, in a low stairwell at the church across from People’s Park (I think??) He was saying “I am always in control always aware of my surroundings…” BAM! Slammed his head into a ladder that was perched in the rafters… Heh! Knocked him on his butt.

    Going into US Berkeley campus at night and waiting for the cops to come and them running through the creak and all over… they would chase us, just because we ran!

    Rocky Horror picture show!

    Hester, Kristen, Lorrie Hart, Melissa, Jim and john Hanscum (?) Jennifer, Jenicide, Chuck, Steve Goldsmith, Julia lefevor, Ant, Israel, Adam, Jeff Brilinger, Kerry Cole, My sister Susan, Nick, Patrick, Brendan, Jeremy Anson, David De groot, Marc De groot, Pretty little Amy. # dollar bill and his girl, Collin, Blue, Peter (Stone? At Rocky Horror) Becky
    What ever happened to Nick? He went to Urban High school with me, but was a Berkeley boy….


    Arrgg that’s enough for now.
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Tue, April 3, 2007 - 4:06 PM
      ...from a band called ANGEL OF THORNS.

      and I'm quite sure I was one of the "older guys" who hung out at Barrington talking baseball all night. Ouch. I was the rare Berkeley Kid AND Barringtonian. I had the big yellow dog named Droog.
      • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

        Tue, April 3, 2007 - 11:02 PM
        Ahahahaaaa! Well I was only a baby then! Everyone was some old guy :P

        When Jenocide and I lived in my studio apartment on Blake, I was like what 15 or 16?
        Do you have a picture of you or your dog as a memory aid?

        My God father Poncho wanted me to say to 'older men' when they spoke to me...
        "Hi I am Becky I am 15 years old and YOU are trying to molest me!"
        He thought it was funny me saying it..... arg!

        P.S. Thanks for the company when I was in my 'I am so bored" teenage funks
        (in the middle of the night) and thanks for the food! :)
        • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

          Sat, April 21, 2007 - 5:56 PM
          After re-reading this post let me say that Tony, you were not one of the "old guys" Poncho would have wanted me to avoid.
          I was thinking out loud (out-written) about that era. The group of you at Barrington were super!
          Just wanted to be clear that that paragraph had nothing to do with Barrington, and only was related to era. :)

          Didn't you guys play cards? or a board game or something... while you talked?

          >> My earlier post: on "Tue, April 3, 2007 - 11:02 PM
          >> Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley
          >> Ahahahaaaa! Well I was only a baby then! Everyone was some old guy :P

          >> When Jenocide and I lived in my studio apartment on Blake, I was like what 15 or 16?
          >> Do you have a picture of you or your dog as a memory aid?

          >> My God father Poncho wanted me to say to 'older men' when they spoke to me...
          >> "Hi I am Becky I am 15 years old and YOU are trying to molest me!"
          >> He thought it was funny me saying it..... arg!

          >> P.S. Thanks for the company when I was in my 'I am so bored" teenage funks
          >> (in the middle of the night) and thanks for the food"
          • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

            Tue, April 24, 2007 - 11:10 PM
            Rebawho,
            Absolutely no offense taken. I basically spent the '80's downstairs all night at Barrington. Hearts, 4-square, Diplomacy, Risk, Scrabble (I was house champ, having scored over 250 points once...on ONE WORD! (lumberers...used all seven letters and connected two triple word scores...take that Pierro!)....talked alot of baseball, but I'm really not much older than you.

            Barrington was an amazing place...at once inspiring and terrifying.
            • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

              Wed, April 25, 2007 - 2:49 PM
              all of the 80's?

              do you remember the night about a dozen raging earsplitting hardcore bands and one ska band played, and the cops shut down the ska band? that must have been what.....81 or 82. lotsa laughs, lotsa laughs....................

              i loved the punk shows there - they gave me the lifelong impression of what "real" punk was, which has never been equaled. like you say, at once inspiring and terrifying. pure adrenalin.
          • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

            Tue, July 24, 2007 - 10:07 PM
            Remember the "Wine Dinners" at the Barrington? Acid punch, pot brownies, people wearing nothing but plastic wrap on their bodies. Walls painted black. So crazy. And who was that guy, a student who lived there for like 20 years selling drugs? I remember the dealers on Durant would go to Barrington to re-up their supplies.

            Ay, Becky, I wish I would have used that line on "the old guys"! Though, age never seemed to deter them!
            • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

              Sat, September 1, 2007 - 3:23 PM
              I lived right across the street from Barrington and got half my wardrobe from the free box. Most vivid memories: a mind-blowing Flipper and Black Flag gig, watching "Alien" in a pitch dark common room, watching over my friends who were tripping on acid, making out on the mattresses on the roof. Anyone remember that little corner shop we called Shitty's? And that buffed cashier guy who'd had a tattoo removed who we called Muscle Shitty? Don't think I hung out there after 1982.
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Fri, May 18, 2007 - 10:51 PM
      John Hanscom, he is married to a latin woman named Leslie, has a daughter and works at a Recyling plant in Berkelely still! His home is in Martinez. We still keep in touch, was the first boy I ever had sex with! Still adore him to this day!!
      • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

        Mon, June 25, 2007 - 12:38 PM
        I remember the drugstore on Shattuck and Vine was "Bill's Drugs" -- we used to walk up there and read Mad magazines. Up the street on Rose/Shattuck was Lucky's grocery store.

        Does anyone remember the comic bookstore on Telegraph called 'Best of Two Worlds' I think it was called? It was a little hole in the wall, set far back from the street. Correct me if I'm wrong. I remember Dark Carnival when it was a small hole in the wall on Telegraph. Then they moved to Adeline for a while (large location) - now they're on Claremont. Chris Stroth was the best guy working at Dark Carnival - he introduced me to so many great books. He was great to hang out with at Au Cocolat, discussing books, art, etc.

        I remember shops: Yarmozone, Funny Farm, Paper Heaven, Toots Sweets. I used to work at Euclid ice cream coffeeshop 'Schylers' (sp?) - they made wondeful lattes in large French bowls. Best chocolate-orange ice cream, coffee chocolate chip ice cream, and pastries. I was 15 lbs. heavier then. ;) Used to work at small Rockridge hole in the wall cafe "Figaro's", and also at the Cody's cafe that is now taken over by the kid's book section (or has Cody's closed down? I heard they were closing). I miss the Northside Theatre....I saw so many wonderful Euro arty flicks there. I remember getting minestrone soup at Cafe Depresso as a kid. Getting steamed milk and honey at Cafe Roma (now Cafe Strada). Pacific Film Archive. I worked briefly at Aardvark's Odd Ark. I miss the UC Theatre....best theatre to see movies - such a huge screen. I miss the original Wasteland on University (now Mod Lang). Upstart Crow and Co. bookstore. Getting weekend omelets at Egg and Apple Press in Walnut square. Getting little triangle cookies at Pig by the Tail. Getting ebi sushi at the old fish shop that used to be next to the Cheeseboard. That's where I got my first piece of sushi. The cupcakes with sprinkles at the Coop bakery....best frosting ever, so light and fluffy. Getting calamari at Racha Thai restaurant on Dwight/Telegraph before we discovered they used lots of MSG. Reading books at Shambhala. Berkeley Beat - for t-shirts. Tower Posters before that. The Other Change of Hobbit in the underground location off Telegraph. The Mexican restaurant that was where Amoeba music is now. The juice bar at the health food store that used to be down from the Med. The Korean burrito place (Kim's) on Dwight that served brown rice burritos with avocado and carrots, etc. they were amazing.
        • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

          Tue, June 26, 2007 - 3:50 AM
          Cody's, alas, is no more on Telegraph...I think they still have a store and distribution center down off of Gilman or 4th St somewhere near Spenger's?

          Yes, many things have come and gone. Schyler's closed a few years back too I seem to recall...when Dolce started this thread a few years ago, I was overcome by nostalgia immediately. Funny how you don't think about these things much and the it will all come spilling out, not just for the time you are typing here on tribe but as I wander through life now, I'm sometimes overcome by nostalgia...especially when I'm in Berkeley!
        • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

          Thu, June 28, 2007 - 1:50 PM
          Holy moley!

          I worked at Yamo's and Yarmozone which were owned by Eva Yarmo. I remember selling lot's of neon clothing and swatch watches, some that are now worth hundreds if not thousands of dollars! If you could only know what we know now, how a $50 plastic watch could be worth $10,000 (Keith Haring)!

          Skateboarding all over Berkeley & Oakland. Tennis courts on Berleley Way, AlcaTel mini golf course, Oakland Tech banks, many spots on UC Berkeley campus, Willard Jr. High, many home-made ramps in various neighborhoods.

          Ahh memories.

          J.S.



  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Tue, March 13, 2007 - 9:44 PM
    My turn I guess--

    Yes, the riots. I lived in Albany at the time but I remember. My family's church was First Presbyterian on Dana and Channing so it was a big drama there too.

    Rocky Horror PIcture Show in... 1978? Was that there first anniversary? I wasn't there but a friend freaked out on acid.

    Summer of '79 in Ho Chi Minh park. I don't think I spent a single day not high. I met soooo many people that summer... let me think. Becky, Hester, Doren, Bede, Bob, Paul, Israel, Patrick, Alex-- I think this is where I learned about smoking mushrooms and Carlos Castaneda.

    Classes in Tarot and Cabala... Kaballah... Qabalah.... hmmm... WAY before Madonna!

    Oh yes, the Ren! I wonder if everyone had something like the Ren? So many of us said "I hate this place... why do we still hang out here?" but we always did. The grafitti in the stairwell that would say things like "freedom of speech is the freedom to yell 'theater' in a crowded fire."

    Working at Au Coquelet... with the twins Richard and Robert and some others who escape my memory. The whole shift doing acid one night, a line cook getting fired for shooting up in the walk-in...Speaking of acid... all the all night jaunts in the Berkeley Hills, coming down and going to work at Au Coquelet after being up all night. How many of you remember the Dutch Boy painting on the side of the building.

    The bands... Remember Psychotic Pineapple? Oquisha Paradox? The Pop-o-Pies at the Berkeley Square? Fang, The Uptones.. Freaky Executives... going into that world beat phase with Big City and Zulu Spear...And of course the dead, though I understand that's a mixed memory around here. Oh yes... who remembers the Talking Heads in lower Sproul in... 1978?

    The people: Hate man, the polka dot man, Serge, "Rare" (what the hell was his name?) Rick Star, Julia, some of them are still around like that blonde woman with the bicycle... and Steve Lightfoot, who swore that Nixon, Reagan and Steven King shot John Lennon. I wonder how he did with his cause? And of course there is Stoney Burke.

    Politics: All the Anti-Apartheid stuff, including Donald, the red ribbon man. What was the Mayor's name again... I partied in his back yard for two days... The protest when Reagan decided to invade Grenada and all the BART alerts! Of course, Barrington Hall... do you remember the goddess of Barrington Hall, and what the saying was?

    Of course, a lot more. Peace....
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Wed, March 21, 2007 - 12:11 PM
      I'm late to this but so far seem the eldest memory-digger. Hi, Jerome's my name, and pardon if this gets longish... About 1 through 4 lived on Milvia St about 4 blocks north of University. Vague memories of running through Live Oak Park, the old Streetcars going over the Bay Bridge, my older brother squashing pennies on the tracks. My Grandmother and her apartment in a brick building on Alston half a block up from Shattuck, and her books on Atlantis and Mu... Mother had a breakdown and divorced my father and ended up staying at a house in the hills near Tilden Park. and going to a preschool up there... Later moved to a big brick apartment bldg. on Grant St. between Addison and Alston and lived on top floor. The phone # was still a Thornewall prefix (TH). I loved Berkeley... I remember Hinks before it deteriorated, a grand place, and nearby the See's candy store. I played at Grove Park (Now on MLK Blvd across from City Hall) and was always frustrated by the big pipe I couldn't jump high enough to get on top. But I was a good spinner of the little merry-go-round. There used to be a lot more bushes there to play hide and go seek amongst. My brother and I would hang there ditching church (Christian Science (the Frank Loyd Wright designed one (on Channing/) across from People's Park. I went to Washington Elementary... (much meta).

      I would go to the U A theater when there were matinees and it was the era of Sci Fi and Horror B movies. Also across Shattuck to the Cal(?) theater. Often I'd check the phonebooths and find lots of money. It was beatnick days, Rathskeller's basement, across the street was a hamburger place that sold "Ranchburgers" and a piece of pie with melted cheese and ala mode. My mother Evelyn was a part of the art scene and had nude models and other students in the apartment, and worked at the International House at UC, which got me into Strawberry Canyon Pool, where I learned to swim, but worked up to Jr. Lifesaver at the pool at Berkeley High School. I spent half my time in Berkeley Library, almost a second home, listening to storytime, then scouring for books... People kept talking about the "Big C" and pointing to the hill but I was looking for a sea up there... till I was brought there on a day it was over-painted by Stanford... I used to spend a lot of time up on Campus wandering, My favorite place to play was in the Eucalyptus grove where Strawberry Creek came through, And I'd wander up to the T. Kroeber Anthro Museum and learned all about Ishi. Also hung out at the UC library where they had that spurious plate displayed said to be left by Sir Frances Drake at "Drake's Bay."

      There was a bookstore on University called Castro's that had a big Comic Bin-table where I was allowed to read the returns (3 old for one new). They played old radio music in there from the 40's, I think it was QOIT radio. The guy got me interested in reading old philosophy books which he'd let me take home for free and return. I got my first rollerskates (metal wheel) about 7 years old and became Mercury with winged sandals and went everywhere. Everybody got to know me, could hear me coming a mile away... Met all sorts of people from everywhere between Fisherman's Warf to high in the Berkeley Hills, over to Oakland to near Albany/Richmond. Sometimes I'd run into wandering thugs who'd try to beat me up and I'd smash them in the knees with my skates and roll away. It was tough back then in some places, especially around San Pablo Blvd. I never looked for trouble, myself.

      Lake Merrit on the 4th of July, fishing off pier, oysters and great fish at Spengers Grotto, Minestrone soup at this Italian restaurant where Telegraph ends in Oakland near that hotdog stand that looked like one... Iceskating at the Iceland, many times there, which I hear is going or gone under now... It was near all those Military Housing units up down Grove (MLK Blvd). The merry-go-round and big slide that needed a burlap sack up in Tilden, day trips over to SF to the Zoo and Natural History Museum... All that stuff that painted childhood. One really can't go back somehow, not with everything Berkeley changing over the years through various periods.

      Teen years I moved away up Northern Calif. but came back again in the 60's. Start with our dear Bubble Lady... Everything on Telegraph, the Hells Agels and Diablos parked there, Lenore Kandal's 'Love Book' and knew Richard Braugtigan for awhile before he died.. the bustle of colors and patchouli, the Berkely Barb and Oracle, KSAN. Magnolia Thunderpussy in SF, the Avalon, the Fillmore, Chet Helm's Dog on the Beach, free park concerts, going to North Beach, (it wasn't all about Berkeley) the various riots, storm-trooping by Reagan's orders of what were once some of the best police there were to be found, I got caught in all that, curious to see Reuben and all, and People's Park, running and averting through back yards, military checkpoints, some throwing crap at police from building tops, I took shelter in my Grandmother's apartments, so many battered and bloody, then it happened down at the park I mentioned early across from City Hall... was there through all that. Saw the take-over of the Reagents office too, from the periphery. I lived on Haight and Divisidero for 69, and traipsed back and forth between there and Stinson Beach where I worked taking down old redwood barns, cleaning up the wood and installing first-growth walling inside homes. Also got up at 4:00 AM and would sneak over the fence of the Japanese Tea Garden and wade out to take all the quarters under the Moon Bridge... bought a lot of tickets to a lot of shows for a lot of people, and a lot of 10-15 dollar lids for everyone that way...

      Moved back to Northern California and finished school while being a 24 hr Crisis Counselor in Redding. But I always came back to Berkeley, went to Concerts, saw Jimi in Berkeley and in Sacramento.... MAGIC! or went to go see Hair several times and made sure to stop at Dark Carnival books. Later noticed the corporatization change the look and feel... I moved up through the various communes to end up in Takilma, Oregon and stayed there a few years... Then after some college moved back awhile to Berkeley to attend UC for a while. Mostly nose to grindstone then, then back to Oregon and a short-lived marriage, and later new partner and off to Maui for 10 + years, then back to live in Piedmont area... while partner attended Mills College. Went a few times to UC theater to see Rockey Horror dressed up and accoutered with water pistol and stuff... I'd wander around, but it wasn't the same anymore. Still, so many great people around though to meet, and got into arts/craft scene, and others. I worked in Oakland at a Psychiatric Center with the youths about then, and hung with lots of friends, scattered willy nilly.

      So much I leave out, but you all covered so much... Oh, did I talk about the Acid trips while listening to free concerts? or the drums in Sproul Plaza resonating so fine?

      Fortune to all my fellow Berzerklians. Nobody knows what we all lived through somehow... Hugs to all! Huzzah!!!
      Jerome
      • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

        Thu, March 22, 2007 - 1:36 AM
        Hinks. I forgot hinks. I remember mom earned these ticket things for buying things at Hinks, then at the end of the year she turned them in for cash? coupons? Anyone remember?
        • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

          Thu, March 22, 2007 - 2:27 AM
          I think my mom also collected "Blue Chip Stamps" and maybe "Green Chip Stamps" for that and other places... god's that's a reach...
          • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

            Sat, March 31, 2007 - 11:12 AM
            they were Blue Chip and S & H Green, i think.

            i remember my parents using food stamps at the University Ave. co-op, and mom and dad trying to explain to me what a co-op was. i also remember some pretty gnarly generic brand raisin bran and wondering why we couldn't just get real raisin bran. a lot of my berkeley memories are basically about being poor, dad not having a job etc. the upside of it was - busted car, couldn't afford to get it fixed, so WALKING WALKING WALKING and BUS BUS BUS.......so by the time i was in high school, going on two hour walks across town was pretty much an every day occurrence.
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              The price we paid for your yummy "natural foods"

              Sat, March 31, 2007 - 6:58 PM
              WE were the unwilling test gerbils, the electro-shock monkies of the FIRST WAVE OF NATURAL FOOD.

              I will show why WE died for your sins.


              We got-You get:

              we got: Carob nasty powder yuck (NO, mom, it WASN'T "Just like chocolate")
              you get: tasty raw coacoa nibs, and rasre peruvian rainforest chocolates

              we got: large chunks of dark moldy granola you had to soak in milk for an hour
              you get: tasty multi grain cerials with rare goji berries

              we got: stanky yucky soy milk with sediment on the bottom tasted like shampoo
              you get: yummy "rice dream" and yo soy, delicious soy milk and vita silk


              we got: big whole wheat rough sandpaper "pasta" with watery tomato spinach sauce
              You get: tender quinoa vermicelli with hothouse tomato and butter basil sauce

              We got: nasty soy burger mix (they should have just called it "hippie helper"
              you get: chinese textured soy products in a lightly fragrant crystalized ginger compote

              We got: prehistoric peanut butter that required superhuman strength just to stir it and it still had chunks of shell and it was so hard it tore up whatever bread you tried to put it on
              You get: raw yummy almond butter, and locally grown and made honey and jams


              we paid for your yummy food you brats! Nyah!

              Our revenge:

              stevia
              pilates


              more later

              cranky crankerton the grouchy old guy!

              Nyah!
              • hahahha... that was excellent Piero... do you mind if I blog it? Everyone should know how we suffered!

                I remember how happy I was when they came out with Grape Nuts FLAKES... I hated grape nuts - hurt my teeth to eat. No amount of sugar made them palletable.

                Carob. Ugh. I got a carob easter bunny once. Oh, the trauma.
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                  Please, blog away.
                  I am pleased that my rant will give testament to the natural food conspiracy.
                  my the forces of cullinary vengance be with you my, fois gras, and veal cutlet eating, oyster shucking, hollandaise sauce making brethren!
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                    Great rant! It certainly caught the flavor of the times for those of us Berkeley kids cadred to spearhead the reaction against processed foods.
                    • * I was once soooo excited to have pancake breakfast at a friend's house only to be served Buckwheat pancakes with fuckin' bitter ass molasses on the top. I couldn't choke a single bite down.

                      * And Carob? ugh, that was the worst shite ever.

                      * Wheat Germ and Brewer's Yeast on everything :(

                      * My mother's horribly misguided attempts at cooking Indian food, in a crock-pot.

                      Whaaaaaaaa!
                • Oh, there was a period there where all my mom would buy was that nasty peanut butter that would hella dry out by lunchtime and that damned Grape Nuts was the ONLY cereal she would buy! For some bizarre reason she would buy Ovaltine and we would douse the Grape Nuts in Ovaltine when she wasn't looking. Blech!!! That stuff was like eating real pebbles, and I DON'T mean Cocoa Pebbles! Oh and I agree carob was so wrong!

                  Why did Pierro disappear from Tribe by the way?
              • Carob in the 70's! Blechhh. I had to eat that when they were trying to figure out was I was allergic to and took me off chocolate. It was like eating chalk.

                Remember The Station? It was by Claremont hotel and had the BEST shakes and fried veggies. It was the predecessors to Barny's
                I remember finding Indian beads at Indian rock. Sliding down Cordinieces slide on wax paper or cardboard.
                The polkadot man, the Rare guy doing push-ups in the street. The dog lady.
                The cave at the head of the creek at Live Oak park.
                There was a guy with long blond hair that walked around without a shirt. They said that he used to be a prof @ UCB and lost his mind from too much acid.
                swimming at Willard pool
                climbing the tall pine tree in Provo park
                Sliver ball
                the Derby Dump- childcare
                Ruth, the street vender who pierced ears
                Yarmo Zone- Headlines
                getting lattes at Cafe Med
                Edy's (a few weeks ago I suggested we go to Edy's and my family looked at me like I was crazy. Senior moment I guess)
                mmmm Top Dog
                the 5 & dime on Shattuck
                coping booze at the liquor store near Telegraph and Prince (it burned down a few years ago)
                Stealing candy from Coop because I wasn't allowed to have any
                Houston's shoes
                Annapurna
                Riding down Telegraph on the back of a wheelchair when mom worked for CIL
                Barrington hall
                When Rasputins and Tower were the only record stores
                Iceland
                Drinking on the roof of that tall building on campus. They closed the roof when somebody jumped off it some years back.
                The Star Trek shop in that little center with Fred's Fondue
                When I worked at Fatslice in the mid 80's there was a regular who always ordered "a slice and a Slice". He had long hair, always wore a Misfits t-shirt and a smile like he was high all the time.
                Who sad Shawl Anderson dance classes and the Buttercup!? I totally had forgotten "Shawl Anderson"!
                Does anyone remember the shop on Shattuck across from what is now Elephant pharmacy? Was it a 2nd Yarmo's? I used to go there to buy my "Manic Panic" or "crazy color" or whatever hair dye I was using.
                • hell yes i remember the fried beggies at the station! thanks for reminding me!!
                  i didn't find any beads at indian rock but i think we found a couple arrow heads. oh, and god, a few times.

                  i also used to hang out on that rock on the east side of UC campus a couple of blocks north of the greek theater.

                  lots of castaneda-esque "power spots" for me in b-town.....i can't believe nobody here remembers the UFO launching pad. i'm trying to remember exactly where it was - it was a courtyard between some buildings on UC campus, maybe engineering or science related? - where they had done this wild artistic paving job with concrete benches in a big circle that looked like a target on the ground...it really did look like a place where a UFO could land.....a fairly ordinary looking place to have one's lunch by day, but at night it really looked trippy. we certainly used to get pretty "spaced out" there....
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                    hey, i went back for a visit and found the UFO launching pad - it's up the metal spiral staircase from the statue of the megatherium which is in front of the what, paleontology? natural sciences? building. you can see the statue and the spiral staircase to your right if you are facing north on the main campus drag north of sather gate.

                    another thing i visited while there was CHEESE AND STUFF, who make sandwiches that taste IDENTICAL to the ones i got there 25 odd years ago. sadly though, dave's smoke shop is no more. i remember going there and buying comic books for 25 cents. damn...................
                • 5&10 on Shattuck...Vine Variety?

                  re; carob..."Any religion that embraces carob is no religion for Carl Carlson". Carl Carlson, The Simpsons.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
                    "5&10 on Shattuck...Vine Variety?"

                    That was a Woolworths...

                    Actually, I do think we need to give credit for some foods of the era, and how changing variations in salads started showing up beyond Iceburg lettuce. All I know is I developed a taste for buckweat groats with mushrooms, fried onions and Miso... Digger Deluxe!
                    But yes, a lot of foisted foods... I'm a bit ambivalent about Lentil soup anymore... too much in my commune years (as with that Brit series, 'The Young Ones' ~ the only thing clinically depressed, suicidal pacifist, vegetarian Hippie "Neil" ever cooked).

                    Reminds me, does anyone remember the vegetarian restaurant that seemed a Meher Baba (Original "Don't Worry, Be Happy" Avatar of the age) hangout on University Ave @ Milvia? All fresh vegetables... can't beat that.
            • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

              Mon, January 19, 2009 - 9:37 PM
              I remember the walking and being poor. But the talking as we walked from our houses near san pablo ave up into the nether realms of the the hills above U.C. They were to say the least our own privet mind walks and as I remember they were stone cold sober walks the tripping was all in our heads.
      • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

        Thu, March 22, 2007 - 10:06 AM
        Mediaeval Studies of nostalgic memories: besides Hinks: John Kennedy coming through town in motorcade, also Queen Elizabeth, before my time my Grandmother said the Graf Zepplin came over the Bay Area in the late 20's on a world tour and was a big deal, it had just flown from Tokyo, Japan, the model trains that went around the Hardware store near the top of University Ave. near where the old Montgomery Wards store was, the Blue and Gold Market on Shattuck (where a pound of ground round was once $1.00), Berkeley's beloved early 60's trivia: the story of Ludwig’s Fountain in Sproul Plaza. Named for a German shorthaired pointer who belonged to a student, who delighted himself and everyone splashing all day in the fountain. In 1961 UC officially named it after him... I remember him and his spirit so well
        • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

          Thu, March 22, 2007 - 12:43 PM
          The hardware store (Ace?) with the train that ran around the walls is still there I think... last I was there was a few years ago. Many of my model trains came from there... Great memories of Dad taking me there.. looking at all the models!


          This is not so PC... but the McDonalds on San Pablo had a window where you could watch potatoes get cut up and turned into french fries... they were the best fries... That window was gone by the time I was 10 or 12.
  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Sat, March 31, 2007 - 6:17 AM
    Berkeley public schools teacher's strike. It went on for a while I think.

    A buncha families got together and had a sort of group home school thing going in the attack of a church on College Ave just south of Claremont... I don't remember the name of the church...
    I would have been in like 5th grade? I am 42 now.
  • two terms I hate...and my two bits

    Thu, April 5, 2007 - 9:45 PM
    "Berzerkeley" and "Telepath Ave."
    I guess that is the same feeling our neighbors to the west get when people say "Frisco".

    Hot and a Bock, $1.50. My world view was largely informed by Dick's libertarian rants pasted to the walls of the Dwight and Northside Top Dogs.

    Running through the BART tunnel, Berkeley to Ashby stations, while under construction.

    An old guy with a limp, always wore an overcoat, (we called him "Roscoe"), who sold newspapers from a shopping cart @ Shattuck and University. And the lady who screamed at everyone, same location.

    Aye Caramba! Tacos and burritos, Rosenbaums(?) Army surplus, Lasher's electronics, and the rock and mineral shop, University Ave.

    The bagel shop, Dwight and Telegraph. Name? Best freakin' bagels ever.
    The first Thai restaurant in Berkeley, on Grove...er...MLK...the place with the gray vinyl dinner stools.
    Blue Goose Icey, Rose and Grove Market.
    Okay, now for the WAY back;
    Cinnamon Oil...you needed a parental permission slip to buy this blistering agent to make cinnamon toothpicks...from Vine St. Pharmacy.
    Little Red Book of Mao, and another $1 paperback pamphlet book...somebody PLEASE remember the name...sort of a sex/drugs/r&r primer with lines like "uptight adults call it a penis. We call it a cock."
    • Re: two terms I hate...and my two bits

      Sun, April 22, 2007 - 4:03 PM
      THE. BAGEL. WORKS.

      in 41 years - nothing has come close, east coast or west.

      huge, titanic even; hot, steaming, salty, and slathered with mounds of fresh homemade cream cheese, about five times the quantity they smear on them these days..... for what, less than a dollar?

      i remember ay caramba well. some days i'd have lunch there and dinner later that day at cafe venezia next door. their roasted vefetable burrito kicked ass.

      i remember the little foodie market they used to have in trumpetvine court where we'd get dr. brown's celery flavored soda, gelato, or our first ever cappucinos, before we went uptown where the big kids went and had our first caffe roma "giant cap".

      i remember telegraph when it was less mean than it is now. and less boring.

      the little hole in the wall art film house up a flight of stairs, wedged in between 2 larger buildings - we saw a bunch of films there but all i remember is hitchcock's "frenzy"

      bongo burger. offending the owner by asking for ketchup.

      my favorite memories of berkeley though will always be on the euclid side of campus - laval's undergroound, rather ripped records, the coffee shop around the corner that sometimes had live bands and where i bought my own cigarettes for the first time....hanging out on the grass at PSR....or just that long walk i'd often take from my house on west side below sacramento, all the way up hopkins to the steps, then up marin to euclid and down to sather gate and then telegraph.....god i walked a lot back then. smoking like a chimney and thinking my mom couldn't smell it on me, ha ha.

      • Re: two terms I hate...and my two bits

        Sun, April 22, 2007 - 5:25 PM
        Don't forget the Rialto on Gilman!

        The theater on Telegraph was called...the Telegraph Theatre...someone correct me if that is not right. I remember seeing Charly Chaplin films there. And that it had a bit of a flea problem. Not sure where it was my dad took me to see 200 Motels when it came out...but whereever that was, it was pretty funky...
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          Re: two terms I hate...and my two bits

          Sun, April 22, 2007 - 5:30 PM
          I think it was actually called the something archive or cinema or some fancy shmancy name like that. I saw the cockettes films there. (thanks mom) when I was 6
      • Re: two terms I hate...and my two bits

        Tue, April 24, 2007 - 10:12 PM
        YES! The Bagel Works!

        I drank my Dr. Browns Cel-Ray at Rosenthal's Deli, pre-Saul's. I ran the sandwich counter for a couple of years.

        I too loved the Northside...Top Dog, Cafe "Depresso", Rather Ripped and the bootleg imports, the beer hall next to LaVal's, (the first place I bought beer), and Barry the pimp, from whom I scored my first dime-bag of weed. The dingy art house theater. The Egg Shop and Apple Press. Eclairs from the pastry shop, burgers from the 1/4 pounder.

        How about the Lamb Burger at Bongo?

        Okay, its been a while, but Hopkins to "the steps"...would those be the steps from Del Monte and the entrance to the tunnel, up to the Marin/Arlington Circle? Dude, the steps, THEN Marin? That is a work-out....
        • Re: two terms I hate...and my two bits

          Wed, April 25, 2007 - 3:00 PM
          you're right it was a work out...what can i say, i drank a hell of a lot of coffee even then, when i wasn't on some sort of amphetamine. i think if i tried that same route i'd be looking for a bus stop bench to sleep on about halfway through. can you believe for a while i used to RUN that route?? in the rain??? i couldn't keep it up, though. if i did maybe i'd be in better shape now.
    • Re: two terms I hate...and my two bits

      Tue, April 24, 2007 - 1:51 PM
      I so totally miss Ay Caraba. My sister eorked there for years...and years
      The guy who owned it got bored with the burrito biz and moved on...it was a great buziness too...always lines out the door...go figure!
      No where else in the universe can you get a brown rice, organic beef burrito...it is terribly missed!
      I still tell my kids about it....ahhhh
      • Re: two terms I hate...and my two bits

        Tue, April 24, 2007 - 1:56 PM
        THE DARVISH!!!
        Carved wood entry and Belly dancers upstairs. I remember you could order a hot mulled wine and a side of artichoke and ley back on huge pillows, sip your wine at low painted tables and enjoy...they never did card me.
        and those incredible waffles they surved, piled high with fresh strawberries and real whiped cream...so nice to treat yourself after a nights trip left you weary and in need of comfort.
        Ahhhh...again

        I think Steve The Greek took that place out with his when he torched his silly suvlaki window for the insurance.
        It was such a loss.
      • Re: two terms I hate...and my two bits

        Tue, April 24, 2007 - 10:17 PM
        remember the water fountain at Ay Carumba? Mounted on like a wood stump, with a sign pronouncing that it was charcoal filtered. So VERY Berkeley. Ay Carumba was probably the origional Cal-Mex...
  • Candy ladies and cookie ladies

    Thu, April 12, 2007 - 1:42 AM
    In 1st-5th grade I lived on Webster Street. Mid 1970's
    There was a lady who lived a few doors down that called me "Goldie Locks" she had a gazillion cats, and we would have tea together.

    On Magnolia street there was a little old lady that gave out candy to any child that came to her door and said hello.

    At Claremont court and Claremont Ave there was a lady who let candy down in a basket, from her apartment. If I remember right she also used the basket to let her little dog out to go potty?
  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Tue, April 24, 2007 - 2:08 PM
    Okey I gotta say it...
    Anyone remember 'The Family Frog'?
    I grew up there, and am so homesick I could puke
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Tue, April 24, 2007 - 10:18 PM
      Please...elaborate on Family Frog....
      • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

        Thu, April 26, 2007 - 9:48 PM
        Large 30 year commune, 2925 Ashby...near Claremont, mandala on the front door.
        Hot tub, garden, 15 rooms alltogether, + 2 bath, and huge stone fireplace.
        Between 8 and 20 residents at all times.
        was home for many
        and me
        • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

          Thu, April 26, 2007 - 9:56 PM
          It was your Mom's place wasn't it?
          Did it get sold? Or why did the commune close?
          • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

            Sun, April 29, 2007 - 10:14 PM
            It was a 30 year rental, my mom lived there, yes. Raised us kids there.
            I could see CSD hill from my bed.
            The house disolved after Mr. Wralstead, the owner died.
            It was a pitty it was not cooperatively bought like some other communes here.
            Oh well
            • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

              Mon, April 30, 2007 - 10:03 AM
              The theater on Telegraph I believe was called the Telegraph Rep (Repertory) Theater. I slept there many an evening when I had a crazy roommate and didn't want to go home to my apartment a few blocks away. Would go one night and sleep through the double feature and the following night to watch the movies. Used to take Chinese food in there from the place next door - there must have been nothing more insidous than being in the theater with the smell of Chinese food lurking around. I think I did great advertising for that Chinese restaurant.
              • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

                Mon, April 30, 2007 - 10:07 AM
                Barrington - I lived two doors down from that place for years (was on the corner of Ellsworth and Haste). Only darkened its doors in the last months of my Berkeley tenure (circa 86) - and for rather dark reasons. It was truly disturbing.

                I must admit I never saw any of the great shows there, of which I've heard tell, but my many roommates and I ALWAYS felt that the place needed to be razed and the property saged big time. I mean no offense by it, just sayin'.

                :)
              • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

                Fri, May 4, 2007 - 10:49 PM
                "the Telegraph Rep"
                yes, that was above and part of Freds Market, I still see the guy I thought of as 'Fred' working downstars at that little store...he always gives me a big smile, and says..."I remember you", that's a nice feeling. I always liked the guy. We'd go in there all high and buy cloves, and pemaken bars late at night...he knew...we knew, it was all very familiar.
                You could smoke pot in that little theatre, I saw Wizards there.
                it was cozy in a funky kinda way...like many things back then.
  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Sun, May 13, 2007 - 2:37 PM
    Some faded recollections:

    Where Black Oak is now I think there was a drug store called SupeRx.

    Brock's (Brach's?) pet store on on Shattuck near Univ.

    John Muir school used to have a fair every May 1st, I believe.

    Lin's Chinese restaurant (now Taiwan).

    Until the late 70's or so there was this strange little building on Shattuck a bit
    north of Rose on the east side; it was low and seemed somehow industrial.
    What was that? Anyone else remember it?

    Pig by the Tail charcuterie.

    Blum's, which was like Edy's, on the SE corner of Center & Shattuck.

    Woolworth's in Elmwood.

    Gambit game store on Telegraph.

    The Federation Trading Post. Got an autograph from Grace Lee Whitney
    and promptly lost it.

    The restaurant on Channing just above Telegraph where Berkeley Thai
    House is (if it still exists) was a favorite of my parents in the early 70's. My
    brother and I always called it "the smelly place", so I do not believe we
    concurred.

    The Station Hamburgers. Those tables which were dipped in 1/2" of
    plastic and had old coins in them, the valuable ones dug out. Huge
    onion rings.

    Frog house: you could always look up their phone number in the book under
    "Familia Frog"
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      Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Sun, May 13, 2007 - 3:02 PM
      The restaurant above telegraph on Channing was BERNINI'S restaurant, run by a really nice Iranian man, who used to feed me for free.
      they had the first microwave oven I had ever seen. My godmother also had a boutique upstairs, called "Cornucopia" which she later changed to "Dzinu house" when she moved to Dwight just below telegraph, and then she changed the name "Dharma" and moved directly across the street from where Raleigh's is today.

      They had an outdoor section. in 1968 I discovered that underneath that raised platform where people would eat, a treasure trove of coins and even a diamond ring that had fallen through the cracks over the years. I then went to REZA'S beer garden (now the korean place two doors up from Raleigh's) and discovered that Reza's place also had tons of coins and stuff underneath it.
      I made the mistake of telling a few partners back in the day, and it has been a famous change bank for generations of kids.

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      Sun, May 13, 2007 - 6:38 PM
      FEDERATION TRADING POST! i bought all kinds of stuff there that would be worth thousands on eBay today - of course, being a kid, i completely destroyed it. full-sized action figures (GI Joe sized actually - those were like what, 10 inches tall? more?) and actual Tribbles!

      i LIVED in that store. we also used to go to Fudpucker's and eat their enormous plates of spaghetti.
  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Sun, May 13, 2007 - 10:57 PM
    I see The Ren was mentioned. Spent a lot of time there in '82 to '84.

    1. Go to the Ren.
    2. Get wired!
    3. Play videos at Silverball.
    4. Repeat.

    Some of the folks I recall: Brett (always with a grenadine), Kerwin, Brandy, Anne,
    Karissa, Leslie, Eric, Jeff, Scott, Casey, John, Paul, Michael.

    It was nice to be able to arrive there randomly and almost always have someone to hang with.
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Sat, September 1, 2007 - 4:05 PM
      I can't say I was raised in Berkeley, but I lived there from 1980-88, from 14 to 22, so you could say that I was formed by Berkeley. To paraphrase a friend from Long Island: "You can take the girl out of Berkeley, but you can't take Berkeley out of the girl."

      Some memories, most of them repetitive:

      Indian Rock
      Alcatel skate park
      Nitrous oxide parties
      Listening to Dr. Demento
      LaVals on Northside
      Practically living on the bus between Berkeley and SF
      Having friends whose parents were real hippies
      Hanging out with boys in bands
      Reading NME, the Face and Melody Maker at the Berkeley public library
      Trolling record stores for UK imports
      Getting Siouxsie and the Banshees' autographs at Universal Records
      Hanging out at Virgin Records when it opened to find even more UK imports
      Cultivating Anglophilia in general
      Ripping wet music posters off the wall to hang up at home
      Funk nights at Ruthie's
      Dancing at the B-square
      Seeing Berkeley bands
      Wild Halloween parties
      Warehouse parties -- thank you to whoever reminded me about Receiving Studios!
      The Family Thrift Store on San Pablo
      The flea market at Ashby BART station
      The Berkeley Bowl
      The laundromat on Telegraph and ? (a few blocks down from Ashby) which was right next door to a whorehouse
      The IHOP on University
      The red leatherette booths at Siam Cuisine on University
      All the fabulous ice cream parlors, and green tea ice cream at a little hole-in-the-wall Japanese restaurant on Dwight Way and Telegraph
      Nachos at T.J.'s on Telegraph
      Being a hairstylist when being a hairstylist was hip
      Shrooming
      Taking the US Bus filled with stoners, drug hustlers and horny old hippies to the (D)US(T) Festival in San Bernadino
      A communal house across the street from Fat Apple's that we called the Scunge Bin. I'll never forget the sight of the bathtub there.
      The outrage that the Gap was opening a store on Telegraph!
      Hours and hours at Au Coquelet
      Riding on the back of a Vespa or a motorcycle in the Berkeley hills





  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Thu, September 6, 2007 - 5:34 PM
    I grew up in Berkeley too. Lived there from 1969 until 1999, when I moved to Oakland near Lake Merritt, and then left for New York in 2001.

    My memory is also that the ice cream parlor on Shattuck, next to the Blue and Gold market, was called "Edie's," perhaps it was "Edy's" and I'm remembering wrong, but it was definitely pronounced, as another poster indicated, "ee-dee's," like a woman's name and not like a version of the male name "Ed." Anyway, I have many fond memories of ice cream sundaes there. I also remember Ortman's and McCallum's ice cream parlors on Solano and Bott's over on college. For me it was a dark day when Starbuck's replaced Ortman's.

    I also remember when there was only one Peet's Coffee on Vine and Walnut and before it was renovated to match the new look of the Peet's chain. Alfred Peet used to attend to Unitarian Church up on the hill in Kensington and make coffee there on occasion, after services. It's sad to hear the news of his death last week. But I was glad to see him get so much national press, from the New York Times, to the Washington Post, and L.A. Times. And they all really made the often forgotten point that Peet is pretty much single handedly responsible for good coffee in the U.S. These days Seattle and the Pacific Northwest seem to get all the credit. In the NY Times they even quoted Alice Waters saying Peet really taught them all about good food and how ingredients and process matters. Clark Wolf a New York restaurant consultant (and former Bay Area resident) even claimed Peet's appreciation for deep, strong flavors, had a lot to do with how people appreciate wine in the U.S. His shop was the first of the "gourmet" shops in North Berkeley. I think people don't realize what a seminal figure he was to Berkeley and food in the U.S. in general.

    That aside, I also remember Vine Variety, where we used to get cheap candy, on near the corner of Vine and Shattuck. And Bill's drugs, before it was Long's. It used to be on the corner of Vine and Shattuck, next to Vine Variety. There was also a candy and ice cream store, McFarlen's, I think, on the corner of University and Shattuck, where El Sombrero is now. I'd totally forgotten about Silverball. I'm glad someone mentioned it. I remember the custom arcade game they had, "Oops," where one person controlled a syringe of spermicide to stop sperm from impregnating and egg and someone else controlled the swimming school of sperm. And I remember Town and Country on University, happily playing Space Invaders.

    Then there was the Co-op, along with the Co-op hardware store, where the Elephant pharmacy is now on the corner of Cedar and Shattuck. And what was that record store, before there was any Amoeba, that was on Durant a little up from the corner, past the original Tower location? I also remember the Northside movie theater, on Euclid north of campus, and the tiny upstairs movie theater on Telegraph. Ice skating at Iceland (made it back for a visit, before they closed). Fat Albert's, when it was Fat Albert's. And many many more places, which people here have mentioned.
  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Sun, October 21, 2007 - 10:27 AM
    I just posted this to my blog (northwestladybug.blogspot.com), prompted by my discover of this site and this thread:

    "Late last night (OK, very early this morning), I Googled the intersection where I grew up in Berkeley in the 60's. I can't even remember what prompted my search, but I found this -- a message board of people's memories of growing up in Berkeley, with posts spanning from June 28th, 2004 to just a few weeks ago! When's the last time you've been on a message board that spans more than a few days?! Needless to say, I got to bed very late last night (OK, very early this morning).

    If I had been more coherent last night (slash/this morning) I would have been able to bring the flood of memories that were in my head to my fingertips and somehow record them, but I was in absorption mode more than expression mode. And the little sleep I got brought massive dreams that seemed to have stolen my memories from my consciousness. But with the help of two cups of strong morning coffee, I'll attempt to steal them back.

    Memories of growing up in Berkeley in the 60's, in random order:

    1. We lived directly across the street from the Claremont Hotel, which had fire slides that rivaled the best thrill rides at the best theme parks around. The really gutsy kids, like my brother Michael, would sneak into the hotel, climb to the top floor, and fly down the slides, whoopin' and hollerin' the whole way down. I can only figure that the hotel staff chose to ignore them -- until they didn't, at which point the gutsy hooligans (I'm just jealous) were caught.
    2. There was a big hole in the ground at the base of the slide with an old wooden door laid over it. We lifted up the door and found kittens, lots of them, and took three home. We named them Tuna, Stars and Stripes and Forever. I don't remember them growing up, nor do I remember taking them back. I have no idea what became of them.
    3. On the hills behind the Claremont and the California School for the Deaf (which is now Clark Kerr dorms where, coincidentally, Elisabeth was an RA when she was at Cal!), were huge concrete letters, "CSD." They could be seen for miles around, even, sometimes from across the bay. The top of the C was constantly covered up with dirt and grasses from the hills (probably by the same hooligans, as well as my Cal students), making the letters spell out "LSD."
    4. A weed we called "sour grass" grew all over said hills. We'd pick these by the hundreds and eat the stems.
    5. John Muir, our neighborhood school, had a stream that ran through a tunnel under it. One could enter the tunnel on the school grounds and walk and crawl through it, coming out behind Jackson's, a liquor store. The tunnel was dark and disgusting, with rats running through it, moss everywhere, and a smell that I can still sense when I think about it. I was scared to death of the tunnel, but all the cool guys (and a few cool girls) had come out alive, so I tried it when I was in 6th grade. I survived, but was scared to pieces.
    6. Miss Saum was the kindergarten teacher at John Muir. The ONLY kindergarten teacher at the school for, like FOREVER. She was even the kindergarten teacher of some of the parents whose kids went to kindergarten with me! I was in Morning kindergarten and Stephan, my 10-months-older-than-me brother was in afternoon kindergarten. We took naps on braided, colorful rugs. The big activity of the year was making wooden animal pull-toys. You could make a duck or a rabbit. I made a duck; Stephan made a rabbit. Ask any adult today who was in Miss Saum's kindergarten class, what pull-toy they made and they will remember. I guarantee you!
    7. I was probably so scared because my brother (yeah, Michael) had told me that pipes on the path that lead to the tunnel had tigers in them. Geeze, the pipes were too small to hold anything but the cutest baby tiger; did I have no rational, logical thinking skills?!
    8. Our neighbors, the Burgers, had 10 kids (EileenMarleneBobbyDianeBitsaJoeyDannyJohnClairChristopher) and used their own actual socks as Christmas stockings. I wished our family had 10 kids ! Because we weren't allowed to watch TV at my house, I'd sneak to the Burgers and watch TV there, especially on Wednesday nights when The Monkees was on.
    9. The Star Grocery on Claremont was the coolest place to hang out and be seen. The big kids (like Michael and his friends) "owned the joint." I hear that it's still there.
    10. Next to Jackson's was Bradley's, which was sort of an old-time Rexall drug store. It had dark mahogany wood everywhere and had a very distinct smell that I can still muster. It also had an old fashioned fountain bar with shiny, heavy, round hinged metal doors that covered each ice cream pot. Under one of the doors were frozen Milkey Way bars. After school my friends and I (who weren't gutsy enough for The slides at the Claremont or cool enough for the Star Grocery) would hang out at Bradley's, gnawing on frozen Milkey Way bars. I hear that Rick and Ann's restaurant now occupies the spot where Bradley's used to be.
    11. There was a May Fair every May at John Muir School. This was a huge neighborhood event, probably the most important one of the year. The highlight was the May Pole dance, performed by the 6th grade girls. I was cheated because integration in Berkeley began the year I went to 6th grade, which meant I was bussed to Lincoln School in "the flats" and never got to participate in the May Pole dance. The cool (hooligan) guys (yes, including Michael) would go to the Star Grocery during the May Fair and buy shaving cream -- lost of it -- and spray it all over the school, the girls, the cakes that were won at the cake walk, etc. You'd think the people at the Star Grocery would have caught on, but nope...
    12. There were three playgrounds at John Muir, the upper playground for the "big kids" (grades 4 - 6), the lower playground for the "little kids" (grades 1 - 3), and the kindergarten playground, just outside Miss Saum's kindergarten classroom. The best bars to swing on were in the kindergarten playground, so sometimes we'd play there. I had blisters on my palms for 5 years straight. I could do a mean "apple turnover," which was when you'd sit on a bar, holding on with both hands, circling the bar until you had enough momentum to let go and fly around the bar holding on only by the knees, and then flipping dramatically off, landing (hopefully without falling) in the sawdust. if my parents had been in touch, they would have enrolled me in gymnastics.
    13. There was a huge tennis tournament at the Claremont Hotel every September. We'd sneak under the bleachers (about as gutsy as I got) and hope spectators would drop money. One year, Burt Ward, who played Batman on TV was there. I stood right in front of him and couldn't utter a word.
    14. Behind Jacksons and Bradleys was a gas station (a Shell, I think... or maybe a Flying Ace/Texaco?) that was the sole occupant of a weird triangular "traffic island," with traffic on all three sides of it. Sometime around 1967 (?), the gas station was replaced with a restaurant called, appropriately, The Station. They had the most incredible burgers and deep fried zucchini that was fabulous! Not sure what's there now, but I don't think it's The Station anymore.
    15. Once a month, I think it was the last Friday of the month, Berkeley observed the War Moratorium. No one worked, no one went to school; we all just protested the was in Vietnam. In my naivety, I believed that this was a national event.
    16. Every other Friday afternoon at 4:00, all the 6th grade kids in our neighborhood took ballroom dance lessons at "Dart's." This was not a dance studio, but was the stately home of an old woman in the neighborhood (named, I presume, Mrs. Dart?) who probably believed that any refined young person should know how to dance properly. (I know -- seems a bit incongruous for Berkeley -- especially when you think that the parents who were sending their kids to Darts were also probably participating in rebellious peace marches on the weekend!) We had little booklets (called "bids," I think) with cute little pencils hanging from tassels (I still have them!). In each book were the numbers 1 through 9 with a line following them. Number 10 was labeled "Dinner Dance." At the beginning of class, the guys in too-new suits would cross the wooden floor to ask the girls in crispy new dresses (with slips that made a crunching noise under them) for a dance, and if the girl agreed, they'd exchange bids and sign their names in the agreed-upon slot. The "dinner dance" was the biggie: if a guy REALLY liked you, he'd ask you for the dinner dance. Mine was often blank, but in a few of my bid books, guys I had mad crushes on, like Bobby Burger, Stuart Todd Duncan McCoy or Andy Turner, signed my dinner dance slot. I was surely in heaven on those days! (No, Peter Jaffe didn't live in my neighborhood or go to Dart's.)
    17. I wanted to live on The Uplands, Parkside Drive, or Plaza Drive because all the cool kids like Jennifer McNary, Jennifer Steward, and the Pearlstein girls (not to mention Andy and Duncan) lived there. Sometimes I'd ride my bike around that neighborhood just to pretend that I lived on a quiet, cozy street with a quiet cozy family instead of on a noisy, busy street with a noisy, busy family.
    18. I first played Spin the Bottle and Truth or Dare in 6th grade at Duncan's house (which was right between Plaza Drive and Parkside Drive... how cool could you get?!) after school one day when his parents weren't home. Duncan and I "won" (or was it "lost"?) some dare that sent us into a closet to kiss for a full minute. Someone even stood outside the closet with a kitchen timer to keep us honest! (Oh, this is hilarious in retrospect!) I think we barely touched lips for a split-second and then stood there silently for 59 more seconds.)
    19. The cool thing to do in 6th grade, especially on those long bus rides, was to make gum wrapper chains. Mine was about 10 feet long. Jennifer Steward's was about 20 feet long. She was always cooler than me. (Until high school and college when, I hear, she was way strung out on drugs.)
    20. In 1968, integration came to Berkeley. There were high hopes that within a few years Berkeley would be one harmonious, well educated, fully diverse and integrated city. It was One Big Experiment -- one that seems to have been a huge flop because the families in the wealthier hills areas tended to put their kids in private school instead of sending them to the schools in the poorer "flats." Not my parents; they believed in the aspirations of an integrated school system. So in 6th grade, instead of walking across the street and down the path to John Muir School, I got on a 40-minute bus ride to Lincoln School. Among the required reading that year was Yes I Can by Sammy Davis Junior (my only memory of the book was Sammy Davis being forced to drink pee from a soda bottle) and the language taught was Swahili. To get attention, the black and the white boys would fake fights until the principal came onto the playground, and then would laugh and hug. I took Home Ec and made a peasant skirt and shirt out of paisley material. The guys took shop and made stuff out of wood.
    21. Sometimes I'd go to Suzie Lisker's house after school. Suzie lived on The Uplands, which meant that she was cool, in spite of her sparkly baby blue plastic glasses with rhinestones on the pointy corners. Suzie's mom had a very important job and was one of the few working moms then. Suzie, who had a bizarre haircut that looked normal as long as she wore her clip, but when she took out her clip, that whole strand was twice the length of the rest of her hair, would offer me Sara Lee butter cake from her freezer and I'd go hog wild because we never had American junk food at home!
    22. Claud Mann (who is now the chef on TBS's Dinner and a Movie!) lived next door to us and we'd play at each other's houses. (His house was pink!) One time, we ("we," meaning my brothers, Claud and I... or maybe I was more the tag-along grrrrl) strung string between his house and ours, attempting to make a telephone so we could talk at night. (Use the real telephone? Well you're no fun!) Claud was as feisty and hilarious then as he is now and if I knew what was good for me then, I would have asked him and his straight bowl-cut head of hair to go steady with me. His name does grace quite a few lines of my Dart's bid book, though... because in those days, he was the nerd, nowhere near as cool as Bobby, Duncan or Andy! (Really fun addendum: in 2005, Claud was the "celebrity guest" to the national launch of my videos about youth and nutrition!)
    23. The People's Park riots (in which Michael was arrested... are we surprised?!) brought the National Guard to Berkeley and seemed to both shut down and rile up the city. For days (weeks?), tear gas was everywhere. I worried constantly about Mom, who taught at Cal. I didn't like the craziness and was scared, rather than motivated, by it. I think this had something to do with me becoming a very main-stream goody-goody-rah-rah and even (briefly, I promise) conservative and religious in my later teen years. It's how I rebelled!
    24. There were some great stores on College Avenue. I wonder if any are still there. The toy store on the corner of College and Ashby, where I got my favorite Barbies (I still have it; it was from 1961 or so and is probably worth some bucks now!). The Elmwood Dime Store, where there were tables with bins on them, each filled with something that really did cost a nickel or a dime; Botts Ice Cream (the best!!). A donut store right next to the toy store, that had a swinging wood door that would slam when you let go of it, and then it would bounce a few times until it's suddenly just shut. (I can still remember the exact sound sequence.) Inside they had the best donut holes in the world). A shoe store that carried tennis shoes (Sperry?) with the authentic white line down the heel. The Jennifers had these, not me. Mom bought my shoes at the cheap Kress store on Shattuck Avenue, where boxes containing plastic shoes were thrown onto a table and you'd rummage through them. I so wanted shoes from a store where nice ladies would ask you to sit down and then measure your foot with a smile and then disappear behind the curtain while you chatted lovingly with your mom about what was for dinner. A Chinese restaurant, the only restaurant my family EVER went to, that had entrees, like won-tin soup, for $1. The Elmwood Theaters, where Michael would go to matinees. Once my parents had to pick him up mid-movie (I can't remember why) and I knew that he was sitting in the 7th row (I can't remember why I knew that) and Dad praised me, saying he was easy to find in the dark because I knew where he was.
    25. There was a city dump at the Berkeley Marina, right (I think) where the Radisson Hotel now sits (and where I'd, coincidentally, stay during my many business trips during h the production of FUEL). Dad would bring us there occasionally to dump something and we'd climb the piles of trash, looking for treasures. Eeeeeeeewwwwwww! "

    Would love to hear from others with whom any of this resonates! (Reply to my blog post as well as here, since I'll have a better chance of seeing your reply -- certainly sooner, anyway -- on my blog...)

    Carol (Heumann) Snider
    Lived in Berkeley from birth ('56) to 1970
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Sun, October 21, 2007 - 11:08 PM
      >gum wrapper chains

      Yeah...I wonder if kids still do that--that was one of the first things I can remember learning in school...during recess! And four-square. And dodgeball. And tetherball!

      Oh, Washington school...when I started there the whole school yard was asphalt and concrete...and then sometime around 1970 or so, they tore it all up and started renovating it; eventually most of it was turned into a park with actual dirt, etc...but that happened after I "graduated" on to Franklin. While they were doing that they put cut up stumps all around the yard and my friends and my brother and I would spend at least 15 minutes every recess jumping from stump to stump. I got a couple of bruises and scrapes from that every week. The jungle-gyms would give you those blisters and callouses. Kids would pull up the rubber underneath the rings and bars and put them around and under the jungle-gym. At least two or three kids every year would break an arm or a leg out in the school yard.
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    Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Sat, January 12, 2008 - 3:04 PM
    Many of you may not know me, but I bet I’ve hung out, at least for a minute with quite a few of you. I was only around from about ’83 to ’84 and then moved to L.A. <<<BOOOOO (I know, I caught much shit for that one.) But, I covered alot of ground in a short time!

    After reading the stories here, I feel compelled to pay homage to those that I still remember and think of from time to time. Although, I know many have left this world, there are still a few out there that I’d love to know are happy and well. If I speak of anyone who reads this please feel free to hit me up and say hi.

    About two years ago I looked up Heather Carter online, contacted her and spoke with her for a couple of hours. She sounded great and said she was happy with life. Last weekend I looked her up again and read her obituary!?! I still don’t know what happened to her but I am extremely sad to hear that she is gone.I basically lived on the streets, Durant mainly, and crashed at her house on 6th on many occasions. I was an absolute mess but she always tried to take care of me. When I talked to her a couple of years ago I told her that I was grateful for all she and her family, Lucy, Peter and John, did for me. And to take in a homeless, lost, little pregnant girl on drugs was amazing to me and probably saved my life! I’m doing great now and so is my son. I’d love to just give Lucy a big hug right now. Can anyone tell me what happened?

    I think of people gone now like my God brother Michael Hunter who was blatantly gunned down in Emeryville. Still to this day no one knows what the fuck happened. Or like one of my best friends Jerry Ernst who got hit by some drunken ass driver on E 14th in Oakland. Shoulda beat that asshole at the hospital that day Jerry died. He’s lucky he was handcuffed to a bed.
    Paul “that’s so anti Christ” Bayloff, my little buddy, who used to be so sweet and so fuckin’ crazy all at the same time. Kim Chipanee (sp?) screaming up and down Durant until that one day…
    Cruisin around the streets all night rockin out with Matt Newman.. And Heather….damn girl, I still can’t ‘wrap my head’ around that shit...

    I can’t even imagine all the people who I don’t know are gone now.

    So many kool memories in such a short time like the numerous nights I spent flyin’ around on the back of Montana’s bike. Burnin’ the man thru the hills, hangin out at the wall, watchin the boys wrench on their shit all night at the house on Monterey. Can’t forget Dave ‘the boy’ Lucky or Chris Mast, u r the coolest. Home cooked chicken versus fast food chicken! LOL. Doing laundry with Julie Lindley on Telegraph. What a fuckin blast that was.

    I remember kickin it at Mark Mercer’s house, much thanx to him too; good looking out for me as well man. My old roommate Eric Korman hookin me up with the newest and hardest tunes. Erin Malone, where are you girl? You were such a sweetheart. You and your mom were the most awesome. Hangin out listening to Priest & the Scorpions with Lacy Burnett. Riding BMX bikes with HIPPIE FUCKIN CHUCK, Where are you man? David Phone, Phone home ET, with the El Camino and the kick ass system. Lobster dinner ala Chris Mosier. Chris Harris, such a nice person, I hope he is doing well. Smokin’ the boombastic with Jimmy Minniwhether!

    Sleeping at People’s Park hangin out and partyin’ with people I didn’t know so I could crash there. So many kool trippers to chill with!


    Back in the day…Rick & Lonnie; Andy & Denise, Connie & Pam. Being the happy homemaker at 'The Web' in Marin, that one lost weekend. Jeff Weller, Phil what up? I remember naming a cat after Toby Rage; too funny.

    Squattin at Mark Whittaker’s pad in El Cerrito, listening to Gary Holt play classical guitar and sleeping in a bean bag chair next to the speakers; and lots of Capt. Crunch. Fuck Yeah!

    And wasn’t it Zak, the huge Rhodesian that belonged Rick and Lonnie that used to intimidate people into tossing him some food? I loved that big headed sweetie pie! He was at times, my very best friend.

    ANNAPURNA’S, my favorite store, still there last time I was in town. To Bertoli’s with Johnny Costa for minestrone soup and sourdoughbread on a cold, rainy day. The biggest & fattest College ave burritos! Peet’s coffee, now gone commercial, I still buy it in the stores though just for sentimental reasons. Over to Aladdin’s for coffee & pastries during an attack of the serious munchies and so I could stare at the waterfall on the wall. (HMMM sounds pretty good right about now!) Arnell’s Pizza… Flints BBQ… Those nights drunk as fuck at Ruthies Inn, basically every weekend, but do remember seeing Testament, Slayer, Venom, etc.; and the Keystone for my very first Metallica show. I think with Dave Mustane even. We had it good back then.

    Lots more that I can’t put in text… ha ha ha. Even more I can’t think of right now.

    Even if no one ever reads this, I feel better writing it. I miss alot of you and just Berkeley in general.
    I know it's changed alot since then, but will always be kool in my mind.

    Berkeley kids are hella kool and thanx for letting me hang out. I will always remember those days.

    Peace to all.


    Robyn. (Morris)
  • Ken
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    Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Mon, April 14, 2008 - 1:44 PM
    Never go back - Hari Krishnas, Rajneeshees, People's Temple (family massacred on Woolsey St, hit men running through my backyard and scaring the shit out of me and my sisters); pleasant memories - spelunking through Strawberry Creek, paddling the boat in the Claremont reservoir (the covered one by Ashby), Elmwood theater Saturday matinees with cartoons, Laurel and Hardy, Abbot & Costello, followed with a 'suicide' at Ozzie's. Shout out to West Side de Berkeley and South Side Skaters, and BTU. Get off the trees, people, unless your smoking them.
    • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

      Mon, April 14, 2008 - 11:24 PM
      that's "vatos locos west side de berkeley" to you, pal.
      [we had some awesome bouncing car parades down my street back in the day.]

      BTU?? LOL!! what about DMR??
      • Ken
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        Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

        Tue, April 15, 2008 - 11:17 AM
        ¿quién está loco ahora? Cuál es "DMR"?
        • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

          Tue, April 15, 2008 - 9:19 PM
          that's "Durant Mob Rules". Carol's gang. i think they had to be buds with BTU, if we are indeed talking about the same BTU, as in "BTU SLAMS!!"

          as for the "VLWSB" that's just what i remember written in that beautiful lowrider script all over my neighborhood growing up. North Berkeley Bart Station was a favorite canvas. the other thing i remember is that those guys never hassled anybody, they just drove beautiful cars that they washed and waxed in their driveways every sunday. when they ruled our hood in the 70's-80's, there was pretty much no crime to speak of. it was when they were replaced by a younger, less stylin' crowd that the gunplay started.
  • Re: Memories of Growing Up In Berkeley

    Thu, April 24, 2008 - 11:45 AM
    Just found you guys. My parents owned an art gallery on College Avnue in the late 60's called the Redbug Gallery and I lived in many houses around that ahrea.

    Here's some more memories...

    The sound of the “ding” inside Hink’s department store on Shattuck and the smell of old wood and perfume and the feel of my grandmothers hand as she led be through. The Egg Shop and Apple Press. Ozzie’s in the Elmwood. The Sherman Williams “Cover the Earth” neon sign coming back from San Francisco as you came off the Bridge. The structures down at the mud flats on the edge of the bay. Inhaling tear gas walking home from the bus stop up near Jackson’s liquors and feeling it burn in my throat. Feeding the ducks at Lake Merritt. That weird dragon sculpture at the park near the Oakland Zoo. Lawrence Hall of Science. Lazy summer afternoons at Strawberry Canyon Swimming Pool. Walking around Lake Anza and seeing “the naked people”. Cal football games on Saturday afternoons. Selling our parking spot to football fans on their way to the game. Selling Lemonade on the sidewalk to them on their return. The Mayor Art Show (I was lucky enough to get to go on the show). Playing “Pong” in the basement of Larry Blakes. The sound of water echoing off the walls and the smell of clorine at the Berkeley Women’s City Club swimming pool and the maze of shower stalls in their locker room. Chicken Wonton Soup at that Chinese place on College Avenue with the old guy cooking in the back. Buying Pixy Stix and wax skeletons filled with some kind of colored sugar water around Halloween at the Star Market on Claremont. Hearing the train whistle echo off the hills at night. High school parties up in the hills. The Coop. The Grand Lake theater seeing the Swiss Family Robinson & Lady and the Tramp. The smell of warm eucalyptus trees in summer. The sound of my best friend’s wooden clogs tumbling down the Claremont Hotel fire escape (a definite rite of passage in the Claremont area of Berkeley until they closed it down). Monkey Island for you kids around that area. The track at the Deaf School watching the sun set over the bay.
  • "Weird" Food

    Thu, July 3, 2008 - 10:10 PM
    I don't know why this all popped into my mind but I am compelled to share...

    Does anyone else remember Yinnies? They were a sweet chewy candy made out of rice. I remember that we bought them at a co-op or health food store on the east side of University once. They were the only candy I had ever had at the age of four! Tho we also scraped out the freezer and poured maple syrup on the ice.

    When I had my seventh birthday, my mom said I could have any kind of food I wanted. I said I wanted Lucky Charms. She didn't know what they were, so she took me to a liquor store on Solano with a big candy selection. I didn't think that was the right place to go, but went along with her. We ended up asking the cashier where we could get Lucky Charms and he said we could get them at the supermarket across the street!

    I remember getting hummus on a piece of bread in a cafe that had a picture of Meyer Baba on the wall. Was that on University?

    My Mom was macrobiotic for a few years, while I was going to Harding Elementary in El Cerrito. I remember taking balls of rice wrapped in seaweed to school for lunch. I felt very alone. Sometimes my friend would trade me a Ding Dong for a piece of my fruit though.

    My Mom made an incredible recipe for carob mousse which she through out at some point. I wish I had that still!

    We had goats in our yard for several years and I got very tired of goat's milk every day. My dad would feed the goat cigarettes in colorful wrappers to relax her while she was getting her hooves trimmed.
    • Re: "Weird" Food

      Sun, July 20, 2008 - 1:23 AM
      I remember Yinnies. A sort of health food version of Mary Janes. They were the only candy my friends' hippie parents allowed them to eat. Once a couple of my friends were at their grandparents' house and after scrounging up some change they walked a long way to buy some Hostess Twinkies only to find out that they tasted disgusting. What a let-down!
  • The Day the Elmwood Died

    Sat, January 31, 2009 - 1:07 PM
    So, in my opinion, the Elmwood District on College Ave in Berkeley officially died on January 29th, 2009. After the closing of the Elmwood Hardware and the Elmwood Pharmacy within the past year, there is now a posting and poster of Ozzie on the Elmwood Pharmacy door letting all that still remember him that Ozzie died on January 29th. He was what I consider, the heart of the Elmwood. When I was a child, I remember him as I sat on the stool eating my cottage cheese and fruit, or ordering a hotdog and cheese sandwich with potato chips with lemonade looking at the multi-colored bottles of flavors that he would ad to drinks, it is now over. Just another piece of my childhood gone forever. Rest, Ozzie, knowing that you meant so much to so many and were an undeniable icon to those that called those two blocks of Berkeley their home.
    • Re: The Day the Elmwood Died

      Sat, February 7, 2009 - 10:07 AM
      Mr. Mopps' on MLK Jr. Way (Grove St.). Is still a place that I can walk into and relive a part or parts of my childhood days in Berkeley................
      • Re: The Day the Elmwood Died

        Sun, April 12, 2009 - 1:20 PM
        no longer...
        they too are gone...closed last year, a sad day.
        I think maybe the Long Life Vegi House is the only thing standing from those days...and the med...but that has changed hands and is not what it was. many old timers cling to the memory of that place.

        am I missing anything...maybe there are afew holdovers from the days when Berkeley was a freer place?
        Dark carnival books...but they moved to a cramped little space...i loved the big one filled with geeky oddities and educated sci fi enthusiasts.
        oh sigh....
        but the new alternative is growing deeper roots daily....cafe Nomad, Rays organic kichen, Stone mountain and daughters...there is resistance to the cooptation of imagination. Long live the resistance!
  • Hoo-Rah! I just found this Berkeley tribal site! And who would have thought that over 46 years since making so many after-high-school-day visits to the wonderful Eclair Bakery on Shattuck or Telegraph Avenues for a muffin or an apple turnover before, perhaps, using the restroom on the 2nd floor of Hink's, or purusing dusty old books in Moe's, or even ascending the musty stairs to the dark, top floor of Wheeler Hall (as if in 1963 and well in advance of 2009's tzars, I already knew that the "free speech" being broadcast loudly from Sproul's steps would twist and warp toward the present day from behind those closed wooden doors of jaded middle-earth history professors and TA's of flowery English); and then walking up the hills past La Vals toward friends' houses on Buena Vista or Keith or my own house on Amador, that I would now be living far from Berkeley yet right next door to a very wise, beautiful woman named Friedel, was was an original owner of that same and wildly popular bakery of my teen years, The Eclair!

    And so, in humble tribute to that brown-and-yellow-signed bakery of old, I would like to say "Thank You" to Friedel - for contributing so much to so many of my personal Berkeley memories, and for having given Berkeley such an excellent, upstanding institution that is still remembered by so many.

    And on the occasion of a party being held for her tomorrow, on 12 September 2009, I would especially like to say . . . "HAPPY 98TH BIRTHDAY, FRIEDEL - I am totally honored to remain loyal as your past customer, your neighbor, and your friend!!!"

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