the history of "hella"

topic posted Tue, July 3, 2007 - 9:28 PM by  subcontrary
I hope this won't seem too much off topic, but there are so many great
memories in this group, I was wondering if anyone might be able to
help me with a slightly different sort of psycho-archeology. Or, really,
linguistic archeology, to be precise.

My wife, who is actually from England, and myself, who did grow up in Berkeley,
are trying to work out some of the early history of the slang word "hella" --
as in, "that was some hella gnarly shit" or "we are hella gonna be there" or
"there were hella many people at the party".

If you didn't already know, it's appears that this construction began life
sometime in the mid 1970's--perhaps as early as 1976, perhaps even earlier,
and it spread out from somewhere in Berkeley or Oakland. By now this construction
is fairly well known as a characteristic of Northern California slang. What we're
interested in though is not so much where or when exacly it began, but what
were the ways it was used back in the old days.

So, what we're looking for are real, recorded examples from the late 70's or early 80's--
things that you might have in a journal that you kept back then, or in a letter you got
from a friend, or in a poem or a song you have from back then. Basically anything, so
long as you (and we) can be really sure that it really was used *exactly* that way, way
back then. Anything, that is, so long as it is a real quotation of actual usage, and not just
the way you remember people using it.

Though, really, I guess we'd be interested in people's memories too, however fallible they might
be. What we want to understand is how the use of this form changed over the years,
and in particular, what the earliest sorts of uses might have included.

It's a funny question, I know, but it's a serious one too, at least for us. This is the
sort of thing, or one sort of thing at least, that linguists will worry about.

Anyway, if anyone can help us out in any way we will be, of course,
hella grateful.

We totally will.
posted by:
subcontrary
Maryland
  • Re: the history of "hella"

    Wed, July 4, 2007 - 12:43 AM
    astonishing. this is a major thread in the soon to be published memoirs of a certain compatriot of ours. i'll let him know you're inquiring.

    i do know that there was an off-shoot developed by a musician friend from albany high - "hecka". it spread like wildfire amongst our social group and in short order had leapt from coast to coast.

    i also remember a guitar player acquaintance who introduced the term "raging". the typical context would be something like "total raging metal mayhem" but it devolved to uses such as "this pizza is totally raging".
  • Re: the history of "hella"

    Thu, July 5, 2007 - 9:28 PM
    In 1979 I was 16 years old and sort of feeling sorry for myself one day, so my friend, Stacey, cheered me up by writing on a public telephone casing, "John Fox is hella raw man." It was on that phone kiosk for a while. If you go up that path from the Berkely BART station to lower sproul, you would pass the eucalyptis grove and come to a field next to the life sciences building, and there is a statue of some football player from a long time ago. The phone was there. People asked me about it for years.

    Who from Albany said "hecka"? It sounds like Brendan Ridge. I'm sure he said it at least once.
    • Re: hecka

      Fri, July 6, 2007 - 12:12 AM
      i am almost positive it was my sax playing friend kenny b. who said it the first time i ever heard it
      • Re: hecka

        Fri, July 6, 2007 - 8:55 PM
        Not to take anything away from Mr. Brooks, but we (Maybeck/Cazadero/Berkeley High) were saying Hecka as a joke immediately after hearing Hella for the first time in 1980-81.
      • Re: hecka

        Fri, July 6, 2007 - 8:59 PM
        Oh yeah, almost forgot:

        Q. How many Berkeley Punx does it take to screw in a light-bulb?
        A. Hella

        Also, back in the day it was pronounced "helluv" not "hella".
        • Re: hecka

          Sun, July 8, 2007 - 12:44 AM
          That's the best joke I've heard all year.
          • Re: hecka

            Sun, July 8, 2007 - 2:58 PM
            Brendon..yikes small world..
            I remember when my ex's niece come to live w/ us here in Port Townsend WA. She said it all the time."hella" that is. About a year later all the kids around town were saying it..
            As for me and Brendon and all the folks I knew. "Cool" seemed to be the word, for "yes" and alot of things. I still hear kids around here now and again say, "hella cool"..Always gives me chuckle...
        • Re: hecka

          Sun, July 8, 2007 - 11:14 PM
          Most excellent. But, not to be too much of a bore,
          do you have any idea what year you might first
          have heard this joke?

          Now that you mention it though, I guess "hella/helluv"
          was probably used as a quantifier with plural nouns (e.g. hella punks)
          pretty early on, perhaps as early as it occurred as an intensifier with adjectives (e.g. hella cool).
          Or perhaps even earlier?

          If this isn't already way too hella geeky sounding, there are hella more ways that
          "hella" was being used by the mid 1990's, which I will be happy to geekily detail
          for anyone interested.

          But I'm still trying to find solid evidence as to the order in which these uses first proliferated.
          Any more detailed memories will be very welcome. You'll get, like, hella gratitude and stuff like that.

          As for the parallel history of "hecka", I assume that once "hella" was established,
          any number of clever, ironic people would have been likely to coin it.
        • Re: hecka

          Tue, July 17, 2007 - 10:32 PM
          I forgot about "helluv"
          I used "hecka" when I was in class (I'm thinking 7th grade or so) so I wasn't officially "cussing".
          Funny, because I got suspended for 3 days in HS for saying "that's hella fucked up" in class. I was intentionally provoking my Christian English/ceramics teacher.
  • Re: the history of "hella"

    Tue, July 24, 2007 - 8:53 PM
    i AM SORRY BUT i HAVE TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT.
    "Hella" originally came from Oakland. Most likely North Oakland or Montclair Area. I just remember the guys on Durant saying that they knew when a girl was from Oakland, because she said "Hella". This was late 70's or 1980. Kids on Durant pretty much all started to say it by the early 80's. I remember I was living in a house on Benvenue with a bunch of kids in the late 80's and this girl from Portland asked me why are you always saying "Hello" this and "Hello" that? It was so normal and everyone in Berkeley was saying it by then.

    There is a guy who I believe grew up in Montclair who has t-shirts out that say "I hella love Oakland." They sell them on Cafe Press and in some shops in East Oakland on 35th Ave. and around Fruitvale.
    • Re: the history of "hella"

      Sun, July 29, 2007 - 10:10 PM
      i heard kids saying "hella" as early as 1974 when i first moved to berkeley from portland, oregon at 8 years old, on the playground at franklin elementary school. whether it came from oakland or not i have no idea, but i can vouch for it pre-dating 1980 by at least that much.
  • Re: the history of "hella"

    Thu, September 6, 2007 - 5:44 PM
    I grew up in Berkeley in the 1970s and 80s. I mainly remember using "hella" as an intensifier, as in "that was hella cool." My friends and I definitely used it all the time. I don't really remember people using the word "hecka" much, as other people have mentioned here.
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    Re: the history of "hella"

    Mon, April 14, 2008 - 1:22 PM
    I can't speak for Albany, but in Berkeley we swore like sailors from grade 1 ("mutherfuckin tittysuckintwoballbitch" and "your mama, your daddy, your greasy granny got a hole in her panty, got a big behind like frankenstein, go beep beep beep down sesame street, got a hairy chest like james west, etc" were my first lessons, before reading and sums) The first time I realized 'Hella' wasn't in the common lexicon was my freshman year at Cal while talking with an L.A. punk about the Reagan admin's saber-rattling, I proclaimed it 'hella fucked up' (disclosure - I may have said 'helluv') and he asked me what it meant, and I replied 'very, extremely'. I've been a fan of William Safire ever since.
    • Re: the history of "hella"

      Mon, April 14, 2008 - 11:21 PM
      i remember overhearing some of my classmates calling each other, ahem, and i shudder somewhat to repeat this, "african booty scratcher".

      but by far, the most devasting one was "yo mama look like squiddly diddly". i don't see how anyone could recover after that one.
      • Ken
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        Re: the history of "hella"

        Tue, April 15, 2008 - 10:30 AM
        So, have you (recovered from that one)? If you want to trick out my ride, make a decent offer - it's still bad ass, just a little dusty.
  • Re: the history of "hella"

    Wed, August 27, 2008 - 3:11 PM
    speaking of which, anybody want to chime in on the etymology of the exclamation "hells yeah"? [humorous derivative i saw online today: "hells to the yeah!"]

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